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08-20-2012, 06:02 PM #14
Anyone notice the good tech that pushed in the disconnect and didn't charge anything?
08-20-2012, 07:00 PM #15Regular Memeber
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08-20-2012, 08:04 PM #16
I know of a tech recently who informed the client their compressor was shot so it needed to be replaced for of course 'a lot of money', as you can imagine. She didn't trust him, called in company 'B' who fixed the problem for a little more than a routine service charge. Now, in reviewing the paperwork for this company, I did not see a single reading, test, mention of burnout or oil--nothing. No evidence to support or substantiate his claim. This used to be a long time customer who now is calling company 'A' crooked as you can imagine. I'm sure they are also bad mouthing company 'A' all over town and may even report them to the BBB, Angie or Ralph Nader.
Now, my question for company 'A' is why don't they have a rigidly enforced SOP that includes a checklist with readings and tests? When they make the recommendation to a client for repair/ replacement, where is the supporting evidence documented? None. And they are amazed people talk trash about them?
When you tell someone their charge is low and you need to add refrigerant, do you document on their copy of the paperwork what the readings were you based your opinion on? If no, why not? If you are honest, why not record those readings to, (a) document what the conditions were on the day and time of your service call and (b), provide a reference for the next service so they can see the amount of change, if any? The medical profession learned early on to do this, which is why doctors always want to compare your chest X-ray, EKGs, labs, etc. with older tests to see what has changed. It's not always just the raw numbers but trends that are important.
If you record readings, it does not make you bulletproof against hack allegations because unscrupulous techs falsify readings all the time. However, when someone comes behind techs on a random basis conducting postview inspects and interviews with the client right after your tech left, you can quickly spot the cheats and acknowledge the ringers. That way should a charge of impropriety arise, you have a strong case to back you up with such a program. This is how you take the 'K' out of Kuwality and put back the 'Q'.
08-20-2012, 10:46 PM #17Professional Member
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There is no interest in the news show putting up footage of good HVAC work. I am not going to defend crooks, but I think we should also note that the news company is setting up for taping in hopes of getting hacks on film. They need to be considered crooked themselves for purposefully creating a "Hack trap". It is no different in any expose; i just don't like the industry getting unfairly characterized with video editing and purposeful hiring of multiple hacks and a few good guys.
08-21-2012, 08:02 PM #18Professional Member
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08-22-2012, 11:52 PM #19Professional Member*
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" I put a new pilot assembly on it for the cost of the part and an hour's labor."
Sorry but it seems ridiculous to me to sell, obtain, install and warranty a part for wholesale when you are a contractor. You sell parts for retail, not wholesale cost!
I do not know or support anything the other company did! But you are not doing yourself or the trade any favors either. Alot of guys start out around here doing that same stuff, they don't normally last long. We always seem to end up with their customers after they go out of buisness or go work somewhere else. Those same customers gladly pay us more because they know we will be there to answer the phone and honor their warranty, just like we have for over 60 yrs.
Do you install waterheaters for wholesale cost also? What about furnaces or ac's? Where is your mark up for dealing with warranty not covered by the manufacterur down the road? Where is your profit? Etc, etc....Warning: Just because I am over the head injury doesn't mean I'm normal!
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08-24-2012, 12:56 PM #20
Link to episode
Hopefully the link works. Otherwise, go to NBC's website and find/click Dateline at the bottom of the page under current shows. The current clips have part 1 and part 2.
I like the guy that says the system is leaking combustible fluid.
I also like how they show the "certified" experts washing the coil backwards.
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