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  1. #131
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    Jul 2008
    Rochester NY
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florida Joy View Post
    Contractor measured the opening under the a/h.... it's only 16.5 x 16.5. Current a/h was installed for a previous HO in 1999/2000 and they likely replaced the old one without sizing the hole to match the new a/h.

    Grrrr.... I guess the HO has to walk behind the installer every step of the way to make sure it's done right... like the way they put the condensing unit half on/half off the concrete pad!
    And you begin to see this from a completely different orientation, eh? This is why I encourage everyone to get diagnostics and design figured out in advance. Have a clearly defined specification that contractors can bid to.

    3 "free" quotes means a lot of running around for "free" to get one job. Some homeowners go to 5-6 free quotes. That means I run 6 quotes for 1 job which has to carry the cost of the 5 other quotes. What appears free must be paid by someone, and that someone is you. (How much of your money you want spent doing design and specification for 5 other people, because that cost is part of what you are paying!)

    So design and specification suffers because you can't do ekg, xray, and mri for free, so everyone makes little better than WAG.

    Once the job is one they don't say, "oh, we simply guessed before, figuring we wouldn't get the job. We oversized by 17,000 btu, this duct will never handle 1400cfm."

    No, that's not what happens. Once the die is cast they gotta keep rolling or they'll never survive. The equipment on the contract is getting installed no matter what duct is discovered. It's a race to the bottom. This is survival. The energy bill, and if the equipment works well, are not the concern. Getting the job done as quickly and cheaply as possible, and having the stuff WORK is the concern.

    Wait until you see what your ESP is. I'm thinking you'll be then , then hopefully thank your lucky stars you took the opportunity to do it right.

    The energy bill will be the true tell. A year from now share your savings.
    Which makes more sense to you?
    CONSERVATION - turning your thermostat back and being uncomfortable. Maybe saving 5-10%
    ENERGY EFFICIENCY - leaving your thermostat where everyone is comfortable. Saving 30-70%

    What is comfort? Well, it AIN'T just TEMPERATURE!

    Energy Obese? An audit is the next step - go to, or RESNET, and find an auditor near you.

  2. #132
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    Would like to see that number.

    16.5 x16.5 maybe the origional equipment was smaller (2.5 or 3-Ton) and because of duct leaks, no film applied to sliders, and other items you decided to repair, they just opted for a larger system?

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