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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    These abandoned Walmarts ARE slum property, as I stated before and which can be found online, many of these abandoned buildings are used for criminal activities...they are broken into and used as "hideouts" . Entire Walmart parking lots are busted and broken with weeds growing through the cracks, with confetti all around the walls. Very few people want to buy these buildings because they are so large that many companies do not have a use for them...just as with the library from link 1...only a small portion of the building is used, and many are complaining that it was a waste of tax payers money.
    None of this is Walmart's fault. All Walmart has done is to provide for jobs in that community and increase the economy.

    If a building is a known hideout for criminals, why would the police not use that knowledge to their advantage? Let me guess, only the leftist, anti-Walmart advocates know about the criminal activities....right?

    As I have stated, all you are doing is trying to find fault with a company that has done more good for the American people than government has ever done. Walmart provides jobs for those Americans who would otherwise be without work. Walmart provides income to the very government that continues to support the labor unions that attack Walmart.

    These attacks against Walmart have nothing to do with anything other than socialist promoters on the left wanting to cash in on Walmart's success by forcing Walmart workers to be unionized. Even the ungrateful, so called environmentalists are working with their socialist brothers in the labor unions, despite the fact that Walmart is one of the greenest companies on Earth that has any real impact on the economy. Why is Walmart so green? For the same reason that the leftist environMENTALists oppose Walmart; because Walmart has figured out how to save money by being green.

    While environmentalist organizations keep wasting money with green scams such as Solyndra, Walmart is actually making green operating of their facilities save them money. So who is the better organization to follow; the ones that use nothing but government money stolen from the real workers or the one that saves operational costs, provides jobs that increase the economy and has an all around positive impact on the U.S.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    People like me believe capitalism is the best system even when we see the gross abuses in the system, it's just that we would like to address the abuses. Then there are other people who apparently think these mega corps can do no wrong. The way I see it there are laws that govern behavior that is harmful to society and there is no denying the spread between the rich CEO salaries and the working poor is too large to be good for any society, nevermind, one that was intended to "promote the general welfare". Remember it is WE THE PEOPLE. Sorry I forgot Mittens has declared corporations are people too. Maybe the folk with their heads in the sand are right, we are in for a bumpy ride.
    How can you claim to be capitalistic in one breath and then promote dictating how much an American should be allowed to make in another? If we would get government out of business matters, let businesses operate without being forced to be regulated by government supported labor organizations and just let the capitalist system dictate the market without interference, the amount of money paid to CEO's will decrease significantly as a matter of natural course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    Quit being an A$$ otherwise I will put you on ignore again.


    ..... How is someone suppose to take you seriously if you spew stupid crap?
    I am not going to let you sucker me into this sort of debate where you attack me personally and then complain that my rebutals are out of line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    None of this is Walmart's fault. All Walmart has done is to provide for jobs in that community and increase the economy.

    If a building is a known hideout for criminals, why would the police not use that knowledge to their advantage? Let me guess, only the leftist, anti-Walmart advocates know about the criminal activities....right?

    As I have stated, all you are doing is trying to find fault with a company that has done more good for the American people than government has ever done. Walmart provides jobs for those Americans who would otherwise be without work. Walmart provides income to the very government that continues to support the labor unions that attack Walmart.

    These attacks against Walmart have nothing to do with anything other than socialist promoters on the left wanting to cash in on Walmart's success by forcing Walmart workers to be unionized. Even the ungrateful, so called environmentalists are working with their socialist brothers in the labor unions, despite the fact that Walmart is one of the greenest companies on Earth that has any real impact on the economy. Why is Walmart so green? For the same reason that the leftist environMENTALists oppose Walmart; because Walmart has figured out how to save money by being green.

    While environmentalist organizations keep wasting money with green scams such as Solyndra, Walmart is actually making green operating of their facilities save them money. So who is the better organization to follow; the ones that use nothing but government money stolen from the real workers or the one that saves operational costs, provides jobs that increase the economy and has an all around positive impact on the U.S.?
    Your "free" market allows for monopolies, you can BS around the fact all you want...but the matter of Walmart using foreign labor and goods to destroy American businesses and to control the market remains. Your "free" market is allowing China and other countries to take over this country without a shot being fired, and you want less government regulation? How would less government regulation help the problem? Enlighten me please...will American businesses really come back to America once regulation is gone? No...not now that they have people working under them for basically nothing. Can we compete with that as a nation? Can we lower ourselves to their standards enough to really bring business back? That's what it will take in a "free" market.

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    Lets make a couple of points.

    First, many corporations wish they could emulate the Wal-mart business model. they are very efficient.

    Second, someone said the USPS is broke, actually, if you take the Pension off the ledger, the post office is profitable.

    Third, Wal-mart is a good thing AND a bad thing. They are good for struggling families trying to make ends meet in tough economic times.

    They are bad for manufactures, because they (Wall-mart) can dictate what they pay for a product. Or "The Wal-mart effect"

    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n12/john-la...ice-of-pickles

    Here’s the simple lesson we learned … which eventually changed the way retailers sell and customers buy all across America: say I bought an item for 80 cents. I found that by pricing it at $1 I could sell three times more of it than by pricing it at $1.20. I might make only half the profit per item, but because I was selling three times as many, the overall profit was much greater. Simple enough. But this is really the essence of discounting: by cutting your price, you can boost your sales to a point where you earn far more at the cheaper retail price than you would have by selling the item at the higher price. In retailer language, you can lower your mark-up but earn more because of the increased volume


    BTW, this same principle can be applied to taxes, but politicians can't grasp this simple principle


    AND, since we are all bashing Wally worlds profits. ANYONE want to define what **profit ** is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Your "free" market allows for monopolies, you can BS around the fact all you want...but the matter of Walmart using foreign labor and goods to destroy American businesses and to control the market remains. Your "free" market is allowing China and other countries to take over this country without a shot being fired, and you want less government regulation? How would less government regulation help the problem? Enlighten me please...will American businesses really come back to America once regulation is gone? No...not now that they have people working under them for basically nothing. Can we compete with that as a nation? Can we lower ourselves to their standards enough to really bring business back? That's what it will take in a "free" market.
    Let's reiterate;

    There are laws against monopoly's already in place. If Walmart is breaking any monopoly laws, the labor union supporting government would certainly be going after Walmart. So, we can be pretty darned certain that no monopoly laws are being offended. This shoots down this absurd accusation.

    Here are some actual facts to counter all of your absurd claims;

    • 100 million: The number of people who shop at Wal-Mart's 3400 American stores every week.




    • 50 million: The amount of square footage Wal-Mart plans to add this year, including 50-55 new Wal-Mart stores, 220-230 new Supercenters, 35-40 new Sam's Club and 130-140 new international stores.




    • 1.2 million: The number of Wal-Mart associates in the U.S. Any full- or part-time Wal-Mart employee, up to and including the CEO, is considered an "associate," in Wal-Mart parlance. Internationally, Wal-Mart
      employs an additional 330,000 associates.




    • 600,000: The number of new employees Wal-Mart hires each year. The company's turnover rate is 44 percent -- close to the retail industry average.




    • 1979: The year Wal-Mart's sales first top $1 billion.




    • $256 billion : Wal-Mart's sales in 2003. In the words of Wal-Mart CFO Tom Schoewe, Wal-Mart's sales are equal to "one IBM, one Hewlett Packard, one Dell computer, one Microsoft and one Cisco System -- and oh, by the way, after that we got $2 billion left over."




    • 35: The number of Wal-Mart Supercenters in China.




    • $15 billion: The amount of Chinese products Wal-Mart estimates it imports each year; others suggest the number may be higher.




    • $120 billion: The U.S. trade deficit with China in 2003.




    • 8 percent: The amount of total U.S. retail sales, excluding automobiles, accounted for by Wal-Mart.




    • $9.98: The average full-time hourly wage for a Wal-Mart employee. The average full-time hourly wage in metro areas (defined as areas with a population of 50,000 or more) is $10.38. In some urban areas it is
      higher: $11.03 in Chicago, $11.08 in San Francisco, and $11.20 in Austin.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Let's reiterate;

    There are laws against monopoly's already in place. If Walmart is breaking any monopoly laws, the labor union supporting government would certainly be going after Walmart. So, we can be pretty darned certain that no monopoly laws are being offended. This shoots down this absurd accusation.

    Here are some actual facts to counter all of your absurd claims;

    • 100 million: The number of people who shop at Wal-Mart's 3400 American stores every week.




    • 50 million: The amount of square footage Wal-Mart plans to add this year, including 50-55 new Wal-Mart stores, 220-230 new Supercenters, 35-40 new Sam's Club and 130-140 new international stores.




    • 1.2 million: The number of Wal-Mart associates in the U.S. Any full- or part-time Wal-Mart employee, up to and including the CEO, is considered an "associate," in Wal-Mart parlance. Internationally, Wal-Mart
      employs an additional 330,000 associates.




    • 600,000: The number of new employees Wal-Mart hires each year. The company's turnover rate is 44 percent -- close to the retail industry average.




    • 1979: The year Wal-Mart's sales first top $1 billion.




    • $256 billion : Wal-Mart's sales in 2003. In the words of Wal-Mart CFO Tom Schoewe, Wal-Mart's sales are equal to "one IBM, one Hewlett Packard, one Dell computer, one Microsoft and one Cisco System -- and oh, by the way, after that we got $2 billion left over."




    • 35: The number of Wal-Mart Supercenters in China.




    • $15 billion: The amount of Chinese products Wal-Mart estimates it imports each year; others suggest the number may be higher.




    • $120 billion: The U.S. trade deficit with China in 2003.




    • 8 percent: The amount of total U.S. retail sales, excluding automobiles, accounted for by Wal-Mart.




    • $9.98: The average full-time hourly wage for a Wal-Mart employee. The average full-time hourly wage in metro areas (defined as areas with a population of 50,000 or more) is $10.38. In some urban areas it is
      higher: $11.03 in Chicago, $11.08 in San Francisco, and $11.20 in Austin.



    When did I say that Walmart was a monopoly? What I said was that Walmart is slowly killing the other businesses in America...eventually leading to a monopoly..would this be a free market?

    Apparently monopoly laws are not enforced....just about every town I've been to only has one cable company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    I am not going to let you sucker me into this sort of debate where you attack me personally and then complain that my rebutals are out of line.
    Do you think I really care either way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    You are making it sound like we can purchase items not made in China everywhere but Walmart. That is absolutely not true. The same Chinese crap that Walmart is peddling is being sold in other stores at higher prices.

    As for American jobs, Walmart is the largest retail employer of Americans in the U.S. Do we really want to be coming down on a company that is employing more Americans than any other company? Think about this; who is it that wants to destroy an American company that employs more Americans than any other company? Why would "you" want so many employed Americans to lose their jobs?

    If you don't like Walmart, which I really don't much like shopping there myself, then do as I do and just don't go there. Why in the world do you all think you have some right to dictate to all of the people who like to shop at Walmart and all of the people who are earning wages at Walmart what they should be doing? What gives you the right to tell others what they should do?
    Oh I never said people shouldn't shop at WalMart. I never said people shouldn't earn wages at WalMart--heck they almost work for free anyway. I believe the OP said that WalMart is such a marvelous company that they should be running the USA. My point which I think I made clearly is that if WalMart was running the USA, every last possible job that could be shipped to China would be shipped to China with the government's blessing. And, as you say, the purpose of every business is to make as much profit as possible, President WalMart would lower wages of all employees to $5/hour. If Americans refused to work for these wages they would get Chinamen to come here by the millions to work for even less. If you want to talk only about profits, then in your world I guess anything goes. WalMart would destroy the middle class and bring us a lot closer to China's standard of living while President WalMart would get even richer and more powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exreo View Post
    Oh I never said people shouldn't shop at WalMart. I never said people shouldn't earn wages at WalMart--heck they almost work for free anyway. I believe the OP said that WalMart is such a marvelous company that they should be running the USA. My point which I think I made clearly is that if WalMart was running the USA, every last possible job that could be shipped to China would be shipped to China with the government's blessing. And, as you say, the purpose of every business is to make as much profit as possible, President WalMart would lower wages of all employees to $5/hour. If Americans refused to work for these wages they would get Chinamen to come here by the millions to work for even less. If you want to talk only about profits, then in your world I guess anything goes. WalMart would destroy the middle class and bring us a lot closer to China's standard of living while President WalMart would get even richer and more powerful.
    Im curious, How would Wal-Mart ship jobs over seas? They are a retail outlet, they don't make anything. The jobs being out sourced by American companies are Tech and manufacturing.

    How would <could> Mal-Mart, or anyone for that matter, reduce wages without (literally) starting a civil war. Are they going to come along and simply tell everyone they are taking a 60% cut in pay without reducing the cost of living? what about the cost of products. What about people mortgages? How would reduce wages and NOT adjust peoples budgets to a similar level?

    It's simply ludicrous to say "anyone" will reduce wages. It shows a complete lack of understanding of Macro-Economics

    In a global economy a government can not change one thing and not have effect a whole bunch of other things down the line.

    SO whats the answer? I don't have a clue. Americans want better paying jobs, we want a "living wage", in other countries, there citizens will work for food. Economics is a vicious circle, a never ending vicious circle.
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    If anyone thinks CEO pay would decrease if government "would just get out of the way" you are dreaming and deluded so I have no argument to counter that except to say history has disproved this multiple times.
    As far as shipping jobs overseas all one has to do is have an understanding of how the Walmart model works. Browbeat your suppliers until THEY are forced to ship the jobs overseas.
    I'm not saying that any of this is unlawful, but it is far from the model that should be offered up as a substitute for good government.

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