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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Because most people are too blind to realize that both sides of the isle need fixing. We choose to watch polarized news which constantly blames the other side. By doing this they have neutered us from banding together against them.

    The Right can’t fix the Left and won’t fix the Right. The Left can’t fix the Right and won’t fix the Left. So we come here to play their blame game and allow things to get worse.
    While I can certainly agree that there is no political party innocent of contributing to the mess we are in, the two major party's have never been so divided as they are under the Obama administration.

    The only that could possibly be worse than the two party system we have is for either one of those two parties to become completely dominant.

    You didn't really answer the question, you just gave another lame excuse. Not that lame excuses are not what most of us are giving by making claims that one party or the other can be our salvation, but we need to stop making excuses and start taking the hard roads back to rationality. That means that we have over a century of corruption to overcome. Can we do it? We did it in the 18th Century, and if need be, that's how we may have to do it in the 21st Century. (A good start is to get rid of morons who still think we are in the 20th Century)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Good post.
    How so? I thought it had merits, but I posted why I thought that. This is not the time for kiss up, yes men responses. This is time for real and rational discussion. Lead, follow or get out of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Once again, you are making a lot of noise with nothing to support your claims.

    Walmart chases "profit"????? What in the world is a business supposed to chase if not profit? This is the essence of business, to chase profit. By chasing profit, businesses create jobs and build the economy of the areas they are profiting from. Profit cannot occur in a vacuum. If a business is making a profit, it is because that business is beneficial to the area it is profiting from.

    Your unsupported commentaries and claims are coming directly out of publications from socialized labor unions and the Communist Manifesto. Think about that for a moment.
    http://realbook.com/article/from-aba...stling-library

    http://walmartwatch.com/wp-content/b...hite_paper.pdf

    http://thewritingonthewal.net/?cat=116

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/0...-Our-Landscape

    http://www.walmartrealty.com/Listing...e=&MaxAcreage=

    Why should I have to post numerous links on a topic that is fairly well known across the country? Do you get out much, or does Eastern PA just not have Walmart stores?


    Yes...many of these abandoned Walmart stores do eventually become used by someone else, but normally they are left sitting empty for years.

    Maybe I should just stop typing since you will not believe anything I say.

    You don't understand what I meant when I said Walmart chases profits....all companies chase profits...but I have never seen a Kmart or Sears abandon a building and move to a new one five minutes down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    http://realbook.com/article/from-aba...stling-library

    http://walmartwatch.com/wp-content/b...hite_paper.pdf

    http://thewritingonthewal.net/?cat=116

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/0...-Our-Landscape

    http://www.walmartrealty.com/Listing...e=&MaxAcreage=

    Why should I have to post numerous links on a topic that is fairly well known across the country? Do you get out much, or does Eastern PA just not have Walmart stores?


    Yes...many of these abandoned Walmart stores do eventually become used by someone else, but normally they are left sitting empty for years.

    Maybe I should just stop typing since you will not believe anything I say.

    You don't understand what I meant when I said Walmart chases profits....all companies chase profits...but I have never seen a Kmart or Sears abandon a building and move to a new one five minutes down the road.
    Let me get this correct; you are whining over Walmart's moving out of one building that brought real estate and building contractor money into an area to build a brand new Walmart that further increases the real estate market and building contractors? Is this really what you are whining about? It's not like a building that is no longer being used by it's original occupants is some sort of abandoned slum property. The buildings no longer used by Walmart are commercial real estate. Commercial real estate is a commodoty that can be used to enhance an area, such as was done in the link you provided.

    If all you are going to do is to look for people whining about Walmart, that is all you are going to find. Do you go to Ugly Persons Anonomous to find good looking people? Then why are you only looking for fabricated negatives about Walmart?

    As I have stated earlier, the only people opposing Walmart are socialist oriented persons who promote labor organizations and the Communist Manifesto's attempts to convince the working class that all workers should be equal. In truth, in every country where all workers have been forced to become equal, all workers have been equally impovershed. Why would you push for such an agenda in the U.S.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    ... the two major party's have never been so divided as they are under the Obama administration.
    Not so. GW Bush (and Cheney & company) divided us more with their unnecessary, fabricated, expensive wars than Obama is doing. Actually, he even pissed off the Republicans so much that he lost the House and Senate for them. Too bad nothing seems more real than the present.

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    Why is it when anybody questions the "business" practices of large corps someone immediately pulls out the socialist/communist card? I guess everyone needs to fall in line and accept the moguls right to live opulent lifestyles because they deserve it for providing us with crappy goods and jobs that pay peanuts. Welcome to the new American Dream - no thanks. Check out 20 years of CEO pay.
    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2012/12/...pay-chart.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Not so. GW Bush (and Cheney & company) divided us more with their unnecessary, fabricated, expensive wars than Obama is doing. Actually, he even pissed off the Republicans so much that he lost the House and Senate for them. Too bad nothing seems more real than the present.
    I must respectfully disagree with you on this. I have never seen such a division in the members of our government leadership as I see under the Obama administration. While it is true that many Democrats did refuse to work with President W Bush, it was still no where near as bad as it is under Obama. I'm not the only one who sees this happening;
    Democrats, meanwhile, are much more confident in the role of government. But that split has become even more pronounced since President Barack Obama took office. Forty-one percent of Democrats say that when something is run by the government it is usually inefficient and wasteful, compared with 77 percent of Republicans who say so.
    http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/20...epublicans.php

    And that is coming from a Pew poll, which is a left leaning pollster. The Democrat Party, in particular the most socialist of the Democrat Party, have been doing everything they can to divide the nation since the attacks on us on September 11, 2001. While the Democrats held back by going along with national outrage over our being attacked....at first, they soon began dividing us along lines of political, national and religious agendas. As soon as Obama became president, Democrats began a heavy attack on ethnic (racial) lines that seems to be backfiring on the Democrats as more and more Black Americans are seeing through the Democrat hate rhetoric.

    Obama is a flat out divider of Americans, and in my opinion, Obama is dividing us on purpose in order to have governement take more control of our lives. Just look at how a leftist editorial has to go to absurd means to deny what so many are saying about Obama being a dividing president; http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2...er-reallyt.php

    I don't really care who says what about Obama when it comes to his being a divider of Americans, I can see Obama's divisionary tactics with my own eyes. The man is a divide a conquer renegade who is looking to tear apart the U.S. by pitting not only as many Americans as possible against one another, but evey by giving millions of illegal immigrants a voice to slander the U.S.
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    Walmart's practices are not really a problem, what is the problem is that they are too damn big. They set the pace and everyone has to follow suit. Because they can undercut everyone else by shopping in China everyone else has to do the same. And because they buy the greatest volume of goods they get the best price.

    No the problem is not so much Wallmart but the concept that you can invest in companies that make their profits here but the growth is sent offshore. Selling stuff does not produce wealth it just redistributes it. And besides, if Wallmart were out of the picture someone else would be selling the goods we buy. It is the investment side that is really the evil one. Profit is the only motive without a thought how you make that profit will damage your country. If China wanted to wage war on the U.S. would they need to fire a shot? No, they only have to stop shipping containers full of goods here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Why is it when anybody questions the "business" practices of large corps someone immediately pulls out the socialist/communist card? I guess everyone needs to fall in line and accept the moguls right to live opulent lifestyles because they deserve it for providing us with crappy goods and jobs that pay peanuts. Welcome to the new American Dream - no thanks. Check out 20 years of CEO pay.
    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2012/12/...pay-chart.html
    Socialism and Communism are methods of doing business, particularly in government business. These forms of governing are not "cards". They are real methods of operation and it is not in the best interest of anyone to pretend they don't exist or to deny they are being used. The leftist attempts to deny the existance of Socialism and Communism is the same as the Devil's attempts to get us to believe that what we refer to as the Devil does not exist. In fact, the Devil, Socialism and Communism are all of the proverbial elephants in the room that leftists don't want us to be talking about.

    So what if some Americans live better than others? Isn't that what freedom and democracy and capitalism and the American way are all about? Of course it is. All people like you are promoting is for those who have less to want more even though those who have more have done more to deserve what they have.

    Ironically, people like you follow hypocrites like Michael Moore, Al Gore and even Jon Stewart, all who are leading the chant for equality while they all have a lot more than most of us will ever have. I don't blame these celebrities. I blame those who are so naive as to listen to and believe the socialist bullcrap that these celebrities are spewing out.

    There is not a nation in the world that has bettered the working masses by instilling socialist values into the workforce. You people like to get workers all riled up about equality, and in the end, the workers wind up with even less because they are having to support even more beauracrats who provide absolutely nothing to the economy. At least the overpaid CEO's are adding to the economy as they live much better than the workers do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    .... Selling stuff does not produce wealth it just redistributes it.......
    Where do you get this ridiculous idea from? Of course selling stuff produces wealth. When we sell stuff, people work, and that is what produces wealth.

    What you are saying is that when businesses become too successful, they need to be destroyed. Who in their right mind is going to build a business if that attitude rules the day? That is exactly why Communist countries don't have successful businesses other than those that are operated by the government. If you want to be able to destroy any business that has the misfortune of being successful, you must do so with a Communist or other sort of Socialist government.
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Let me get this correct; you are whining over Walmart's moving out of one building that brought real estate and building contractor money into an area to build a brand new Walmart that further increases the real estate market and building contractors? Is this really what you are whining about? It's not like a building that is no longer being used by it's original occupants is some sort of abandoned slum property. The buildings no longer used by Walmart are commercial real estate. Commercial real estate is a commodoty that can be used to enhance an area, such as was done in the link you provided.

    If all you are going to do is to look for people whining about Walmart, that is all you are going to find. Do you go to Ugly Persons Anonomous to find good looking people? Then why are you only looking for fabricated negatives about Walmart?

    As I have stated earlier, the only people opposing Walmart are socialist oriented persons who promote labor organizations and the Communist Manifesto's attempts to convince the working class that all workers should be equal. In truth, in every country where all workers have been forced to become equal, all workers have been equally impovershed. Why would you push for such an agenda in the U.S.?
    These abandoned Walmarts ARE slum property, as I stated before and which can be found online, many of these abandoned buildings are used for criminal activities...they are broken into and used as "hideouts" . Entire Walmart parking lots are busted and broken with weeds growing through the cracks, with confetti all around the walls. Very few people want to buy these buildings because they are so large that many companies do not have a use for them...just as with the library from link 1...only a small portion of the building is used, and many are complaining that it was a waste of tax payers money.

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    People like me believe capitalism is the best system even when we see the gross abuses in the system, it's just that we would like to address the abuses. Then there are other people who apparently think these mega corps can do no wrong. The way I see it there are laws that govern behavior that is harmful to society and there is no denying the spread between the rich CEO salaries and the working poor is too large to be good for any society, nevermind, one that was intended to "promote the general welfare". Remember it is WE THE PEOPLE. Sorry I forgot Mittens has declared corporations are people too. Maybe the folk with their heads in the sand are right, we are in for a bumpy ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Where do you get this ridiculous idea from? Of course selling stuff produces wealth. When we sell stuff, people work, and that is what produces wealth.

    What you are saying is that when businesses become too successful, they need to be destroyed. Who in their right mind is going to build a business if that attitude rules the day? That is exactly why Communist countries don't have successful businesses other than those that are operated by the government. If you want to be able to destroy any business that has the misfortune of being successful, you must do so with a Communist or other sort of Socialist government.
    Quit being an A$$ otherwise I will put you on ignore again.


    Explain to me how wealth is created in a city where a company ships in consumer goods and takes the profits elsewhere? They are a low overhead operation, in other words they do not want to leave more money than they have to into the local economy. Wealth flow from one hand into the other making some wealthy but to actually create wealth you have to take something of little value and change it into something of more value. Oil has some value but when you change it into a bunch of Barbie toys its value increases greatly. Manufacturing creates wealth, selling something just uses your money (which you bought some goods with) to hopefully get someone else to trade more of their money in exchange. This does not create wealth but just collects it.

    And where did I say when a business gets too successful it needs to be destroyed? I said that because of their size they set the rules of the game. And the rules of the game according to them is manufacturing is done in the low cost environments like China. Funny you should say that communist countries don't have successful businesses. Are you saying all those companies in China which makes our consumer goods are not successful? Think about what you are saying trying to twist my words to fit your left wing phobia. How is someone suppose to take you seriously if you spew stupid crap?
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