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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Maybe you would understand if they started selling HVAC systems and referred the customers to competent, bottom dollar installers.
    And still....it would be better than what government is doing.

    If you want to pay more the very same product out of a box, you have every right to do so. Likewise, all of the moron Americans in the U.S. have the right to be stupid enough to purchase products from Walmart for less money because Walmart is so much better at conducting business than other companies are. We moron Americans who so stupidly pay less for products applaud your dedication to your cause, even though we are too stupid to understand what exactly that cause is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    And still....it would be better than what government is doing.

    If you want to pay more the very same product out of a box, you have every right to do so. Likewise, all of the moron Americans in the U.S. have the right to be stupid enough to purchase products from Walmart for less money because Walmart is so much better at conducting business than other companies are. We moron Americans who so stupidly pay less for products applaud your dedication to your cause, even though we are too stupid to understand what exactly that cause is.
    Read and respond to more than just my post and just maybe you will understand what the cause is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Read and respond to more than just my post and just maybe you will understand what the cause is.
    I understand full well what the whiney complaints are. The fact is that as long as we are still relatively free to make decisions for ourselves, right, wrong or indifferent to what others believe in, not one of the complaints against Walmart has any validity to it.


    • No one is forciing anyone to shop at Walmart.
    • No one is forcing anyone to work at Walmart.
    • Those who work at Walmart are.......working.
    • Walmart is an American success that is under attack by those who oppose American values and ideals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    I understand full well what the whiney complaints are. The fact is that as long as we are still relatively free to make decisions for ourselves, right, wrong or indifferent to what others believe in, not one of the complaints against Walmart has any validity to it.


    • No one is forciing anyone to shop at Walmart.
    • No one is forcing anyone to work at Walmart.
    • Those who work at Walmart are.......working.
    • Walmart is an American success that is under attack by those who oppose American values and ideals.
    You forgot to included the picture of yourself waving the Amercian flag.

    Go on buying those tools at the swap meet pretending you don't know where they came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    OK all you Walmart bashers... anyone want to hold up their hand and say: I paid MORE because I wanted to? NO, we all shop for the best price. Walmart just delivers the best price... what Walmart does to deliver the best price is 'just business' (they would not have the best price if they did not do it).

    We need to remember: Business (and govt too) are zero sum games when it comes to the books balancing. A business will not last long if it spends more than it takes in. A govt, OTOH, can print money. Problem is... this leads to price inflation. Don't believe me... just look at history over the last decades. It also fits the law of supply and demand: When there are more $$$'s chasing the same amount of goods... the price goes up.

    So it is really NOT Walmert's fault, it is the American consumer who is only doing what every consumer does... look for the best deal.

    Now here is a positive from Walmart: They put up a bunch of $$$ to Lennox to design and get into production some really HIGH SEER large RTU's. You greenies should be thankful for WallyWorld for this one... <grin>

    Another positive for Walmart: One can buy lots of basic items there for a price competitive to Costco or Sam's club... without buying the membership.

    One more: While I do not really like their groceries... their work clothes are fine for me (not the shoes though).

    OK, again: Anyone out there who bashes Walmart want to hold up their hand and say they voluntarily shop at the high priced place when they could save $$$ somewhere else?
    I WILL and DO spend more for the same item if one has a label that reads " Made in the USA". Others should as well!
    I see my friends and family looking more into where items are made now. Whenever we go out I make a big deal about it. Ive been known to go into stores and ask what items they sell are Made in the States. Ive been in a store or two that responded with nothing. SO we have left and looked for that same item Made in the USA online.
    Gotta have the right tool for the job!

    Where is all the stuff MADE IN THE USA?

    "Thats what we do Troy. Incredible, Invisible, Imbelivable things. We are an Unseen, Unknown, Unvincible fraternity of craftsman.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    You forgot to included the picture of yourself waving the Amercian flag.

    Go on buying those tools at the swap meet pretending you don't know where they came from.
    Just when I think you are so smart because you don't save money by shopping at businesses that fulfill the American Dream, you go and show how uninformed and unobservant you are of others.

    Simply put; I refuse to buy any tool manufactured in China or any Chinese affiliate country. There are many tools manufactured in other countries that are very well made that I will purchase, but when it comes to tools, I don't shop for price alone. Then again, if Walmart does have a tool that is of a quality that is acceptable to me, and that tool is less expensive than I can buy it elsewhere, I am still enough of a moron to buy that tool from Walmart. However, I do not expect to find quality tools at Walmart or swap meets....which I don't even go to unless my wife drags me to one.

    If you continue to be such a moron when it comes to your accusations of persons such as myself, you are in danger of becoming a Walmart shopper yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pascone10 View Post
    I WILL and DO spend more for the same item if one has a label that reads " Made in the USA". Others should as well!
    I see my friends and family looking more into where items are made now. Whenever we go out I make a big deal about it. Ive been known to go into stores and ask what items they sell are Made in the States. Ive been in a store or two that responded with nothing. SO we have left and looked for that same item Made in the USA online.
    If only one of an item is made in the U.S., then they are not really the same item. I also prefer to buy American, and have recently paid a lot more for a pair of jeans and a pair of jean styled khakis then I have ever in my life paid for any pair of pants because they are made in the U.S. Surprisingly, these pants are so much more comfortable and well made that I will be buying more of the same in the future.

    The only items I avoid completely that are not made in the USA are anything that are made in China. My reasons are two fold. Most Chinese products are just not very well made and in clothing simply do not fit well, and I don't like the way that China is operating in the business market or how the current U.S. government continues to allow the Chinese to snub their noses at trade laws and general ways of conducting trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian GC View Post
    Then maybe the Fed should never change the interest rate?

    What Wal Mart does is similar to what a thief does when he approaches you in a parking lot and offers to sell you a stolen tool for 80% off. Some have the integrity to pass on the good price and not support the black market. Others play ignorant about where the tool came from and buy it, saying "its just supply and demand" or "it's all I can afford" or "what a good deal".
    Well, IMO you are on the right track... there should not be a FED. Ever read 'The Creature from Jekyll Island'...

    What Walmart does is nothing more or less than free enterprise. If you do not like living in a country where freedom is the norm, then move to Europe where socialism is the norm. I have a 'Washington' that says you would not like it, and move back.

    And IMO your example about the thief in the parking lot is not applicable. The goods at Walmart are manufactured, transported, and sold in a legal manor. It is your CHOICE to buy them or not. Evidently, by the numbers, the majority of folks around the world make that choice for Walmart daily.

    Now the reason I started this thread was to suggest govt needs to become accountable for their actions... especially since we the taxpayers are financing those actions.
    Everyone wants to complain about the govt... yet nobody wants to take the steps to clean up bad govt.

    My question: Why do folks not want to clean up bad govt? Anyone have the guts to answer that question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Well, IMO you are on the right track... there should not be a FED. Ever read 'The Creature from Jekyll Island'...

    What Walmart does is nothing more or less than free enterprise. If you do not like living in a country where freedom is the norm, then move to Europe where socialism is the norm. I have a 'Washington' that says you would not like it, and move back.

    And IMO your example about the thief in the parking lot is not applicable. The goods at Walmart are manufactured, transported, and sold in a legal manor. It is your CHOICE to buy them or not. Evidently, by the numbers, the majority of folks around the world make that choice for Walmart daily.

    Now the reason I started this thread was to suggest govt needs to become accountable for their actions... especially since we the taxpayers are financing those actions.
    Everyone wants to complain about the govt... yet nobody wants to take the steps to clean up bad govt.

    My question: Why do folks not want to clean up bad govt? Anyone have the guts to answer that question?
    For many people walmart is the only place to shop....the new generation of kids in a small town after wal mart has been there for a while...do they have a choice?

    The saying behind free enterprise is freedom to choose where to shop....that's what we have...and if everyone chooses the best or the cheapest just as in wal marts case...it puts everyone else out of business and you end up with a monopoly. So in the end is it not the opposite of a free market?

    Maybe some of you don't notice it because you are in metro areas, but we can definitely see the problems caused here in small town usa, and eventually you will notice them in the Metro as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    For many people walmart is the only place to shop....the new generation of kids in a small town after wal mart has been there for a while...do they have a choice?

    The saying behind free enterprise is freedom to choose where to shop....that's what we have...and if everyone chooses the best or the cheapest just as in wal marts case...it puts everyone else out of business and you end up with a monopoly. So in the end is it not the opposite of a free market?

    Maybe some of you don't notice it because you are in metro areas, but we can definitely see the problems caused here in small town usa, and eventually you will notice them in the Metro as well.
    Any area able to support a Walmart is able to support competitive businesses that provide better quality product or better services. This idea that Walmart takes over all business in an area is a complete and utter lie. Provide the name of the area you are claiming this is true of so we can see what alternatives consumers actually have.
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    Funniest part about this thread is most in here that are totally against walmart are liberals that are doing same as ever ...... trying to force their ideas on everyone else and force everyone to pay more to subsidize people wanting something for free payed for by someone else. They say buying at Walmart is un- American.

    When is the last time you saw a Liberal doing whats right for the country ?????

    What do you expect from someone with a liberal point of view ????????

    With that kind of point of view ....... How could they possibly expect to be a successful businessman ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec View Post
    Funniest part about this thread is most in here that are totally against walmart are liberals that are doing same as ever ...... trying to force their ideas on everyone else and force everyone to pay more to subsidize people wanting something for free payed for by someone else. They say buying at Walmart is un- American.

    When is the last time you saw a Liberal doing whats right for the country ?????

    What do you expect from someone with a liberal point of view ????????

    With that kind of point of view ....... How could they possibly expect to be a successful businessman ????

    and if your Union , never mind ........ I realize why you look at it the way you do




    You got it! Those who oppose American Dream companies like Walmart are those who think that government is better at employing Americans (regardless of the fact that it is Americans who don't work for government who have to pay for those who do) and that government employees need to have the added expense of labor unions to protect them from the very government that makes the rules for protecting American workers.....DOH!
    Government is a disease...
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    This is not about liberal vs conservative. It's all about the corporate culture and how the race to the bottom has progressed. First from the north to the south in this country, next to Mexico and Japan, next to China and India. From there these "American" companies will seek out the next slave nation to manufacture the trinkets they sell. Jobs for Americans? The corporate answer is WHY? This is the face of world-wide capitalism, get used to it and teach your children how to do with less.

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