I WAS BANNED

[riderman]

To be honest, I probably deserved it. Then again, who is in charge here? I questioned GOD I guess in the AOP resi section. I thought I was here, in the resi tech section. My bad. A person stated incorrect information there about an attic fan, I questioned his information\stated my opinion, and I was banned for ten days. Are you flippin kidding me? Do you have any idea how much money I lost due to this banishment? Well, that is a lie..but I hope you get the point. Some here (like me I think) take things way to seriously. For example, "I could be sued for giving false information to a forum on the internet/ or.. my buisnes could be held responsible for your injuries from information I posted on a internet forum". Really? You really believe that? C'mon. Accuracy yes, but this site thinks "AOP only" states accurate information, when that is just plain not true. We all have been wrong, but I guess AOP is less wrong, or talks more BS/has more posts/ own a van/ etc. Bottom line, you will get banned for questioning their opinion in an AOP forum. I get it.

Terry, are the rules this strict now compared to the past or are some newer mod's with higher authority just getting carried away? Maybe a little of both???

I know, I'm probably banned for life now...grrr..

[XcelTech]

The rules state to post in AOP you must be a professional with the plus marked next to your name. You cannot give information to people who are not professionals as this can lead to damage to their home and themselves and that can lead to lawsuit against Contracting Business. Get your professional and don't give out information that can get people hurt then you wont be breaking the rules.

THE ONLY PEOPLE allowed to REPLY in the Owner Assistance Forums will be a Pro Member with a * by their user title and the one who started the thread. No others may post a reply.

This area WILL be monitored by the AOP (Ask Our Pro's Committee). Be advised that the AOPC will have full authority over the Owner Assistance Forums. Warnings will be issued for those posting advice that are not approved to do so. Continued violations will result in infractions being issued along with more harsh action if warnings are not heeded.

Professional Members. Before offering advice to guests seeking advice, PLEASE read the original post in its ENTIRETY from the beginning. This will help eliminate conflicting advice and avoid actions by the OP that could pose a danger to themselves, their property and others. Since quests are assumed to have limited knowledge and experience with their HVAC equipment, they may or may not use proper terminology when asking questions. Try to confirm exactly what TYPE (Forced air furnace, hp, boiler, natural gas, LP gas, fuel oil, etc.) of equipment they have as well as manufacturer, model, serial number etc.

Things to avoid:

-No getting into line voltage.
-No meters.
-No use of test instruments.
-No working on energized line voltage except to verify plugged in or switches and breakers on.
-No working on energized fuel lines except to verify fuel cock open.
-Removal of access panels that may expose the OP to extreme hazards

[newoldtech]

You probably wont help your cause by openly critizing the mods like this. This post should at least be moved to a private area IMO.

[martyinlincoln]

I think they got tired of deleating post from people over and over again in the AOP section. Been a lot of "banned" guest and non* pro memebers for doing the same thing. Bottom line is follow the rules and you wont go in time out.

[Dad]

To be honest, I probably deserved it. Then again, who is in charge here? I questioned GOD I guess in the AOP resi section. I thought I was here, in the resi tech section. My bad. A person stated incorrect information there about an attic fan, I questioned his information\stated my opinion, and I was banned for ten days. Are you flippin kidding me? Do you have any idea how much money I lost due to this banishment? Well, that is a lie..but I hope you get the point. Some here (like me I think) take things way to seriously. For example, "I could be sued for giving false information to a forum on the internet/ or.. my buisnes could be held responsible for your injuries from information I posted on a internet forum". Really? You really believe that? C'mon. Accuracy yes, but this site thinks "AOP only" states accurate information, when that is just plain not true. We all have been wrong, but I guess AOP is less wrong, or talks more BS/has more posts/ own a van/ etc. Bottom line, you will get banned for questioning their opinion in an AOP forum. I get it.

Terry, are the rules this strict now compared to the past or are some newer mod's with higher authority just getting carried away? Maybe a little of both???

I know, I'm probably banned for life now...grrr..

DUH....

Who's in charge? Next question??


The AOP is working. It's either AOP or we stop answering questions. So, just how the heck to we answer questions? We have to have some form of rules. DUH... AOP rules. We've tried it with out rules, didn't work. Hundreds got banned for being smarta$$'s. Most came back with hat in hand.

Get your Pro Membership. Get your * or stay out of AOP. It's easy and that simple. The * means you promised to follow the AOP rules. Nothing more, nothing less.

And just for the record... Terry has nothing, zero, nada to do with the AOP or setting the rules here. He is a membership committee member. You've been here long enough to know. Ghezzzzzz

[Dad]

You probably wont help your cause by openly critizing the mods like this. This post should at least be moved to a private area IMO.

Nope... let's leave it here. He b*tched via email to me @ admin when he got his 10 days and he is b*tching in the open forum when he returned. BTW... it takes three strikes to get 10 days and you get posted and PM warnings after each strike.

Dropping Terry's name is BS as well. I Admin this place. I take my committee members and moderators advice very seriously and normally go with their flow. We have an AOP committee that busted their butts for months making the AOP as simple as possible. I have letters from HO's thanking HTalk for the AOP system in place. It works. They used HTalk members to do the work. They are extremely happy.

Riderman is about to get a year off, maybe life if he blows hot air like this again.



UNREAL REALLY???

[dandyme]

rider:
put your big boy pants on, read, comprehend & obey the RULES, they pertain to everyone.

apparently you didn't get BANNED, since you are posting again under the same username, you were given a timeout.

[jpsmith1cm]

Even when a user is put on a short term "timeout" as you put it (I like that term, by the way) their user group shows up as "banned" so it would appear that they have been banned.

I'm not certain if the banned member receives a notification or not, honestly.

[Joehvac25]

I've had a vacation too it sucks but it's their site their rules. Sometimes I would comment and not no I was in AOP or just forget. I got my rights just so I dont have worry anymore.

[timebuilder]

I used to get angry at a great many things. In the Big Picture, it just isn't worth it. Relax, follow the rules, and direct your focus to saving our nation.

[ar_hvac_man]

Even when a user is put on a short term "timeout" as you put it (I like that term, by the way) their user group shows up as "banned" so it would appear that they have been banned.

I'm not certain if the banned member receives a notification or not, honestly.

Been awhile but almost certain I received notification when I got my 3 spankings. Two were completely unjust btw

[Joehvac25]

Sh*t I was banned for a month, I was like f that place m f ers, but I broke the rules so who was I to *****

[coolwhip]

Just checkin in to see if he got banned again.

[qwerty hvac]

Why don't you just get you Pro membership and apply for aop, then it won't be an issue.


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[Control Man]

Yes you get a Notice When your banned ( at least I did ) I accidently posted a reply in 1 of the RESTRICTED zones without realizing it .

[hurtinhvac]

I lost track of where I was once and posted in AOP. Got a polite reminder PM and that was that.

Honestly, I visit give or take 6 home owners a day or sometimes I'm with one all day. I really don't need to be engaging more after hours on my own time - I need to be Asking Our Pros myself!

[jpsmith1cm]

Why don't you just get you Pro membership and apply for aop, then it won't be an issue.


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I don't understand why a Professional in our trade who qualifies for pro membership, particularly one who claims to know a member of the Membership Committee, wouldn't BE a Professional Member on this site.

[jpsmith1cm]

Yes you get a Notice When your banned ( at least I did ) I accidently posted a reply in 1 of the RESTRICTED zones without realizing it .

As was previously mentioned, it takes 3 posts to earn a 10 day time out.

You weren't give time off for a single post in AOP. Nobody has and nobody will.

[coolwhip]

Im a professional and have no desire to submit to this AOP thing....lame I know, but thats my excuse.

I have also been slapped a few times in the past for unwittingly posting in this section. The MOD's know how I feel about AOP Im sure.

[beenthere]

Currently we have 123 pages of post tracking violations of posting in the AOP forums without approval. JP and I do a search to make sure that its the third violation, before we give someone points for posting in the AOP forums without approval.