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    Smile 19XL retrofit to PIC III

    I was trofitted a Carrier 19XL with R-22 from PIC I to PIC III on 1 moth ago. It is running very well up to now. Attached some photos to share with yours!
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    Nice job Can, well done
    Necessity is the mother of invention

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    looks good, did you have to change motor and bearing temp sensor?

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    Nice job.I have done 6 retrofits . Threee 19xls with r-22 and 3 19xrs with 134a.I have yet to use that huge panel that comes with the relays and ISM module.I ended up gutting the low voltage side of the starter and using the space for the new components.All in all they have turned out pretty good.Everyone seems happy with it and have not had any problems.

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    Good job! I have done 2 already. 1 17FA and a 19EX. Both had 4160 motors and used 134a. On the second one, we had a reduced voltage starter with big reactors on one side so we just mounted the panel on the wall next to it and ran conduit to the low voltage side of the starter. You also have to mount that auxilliary panel to translate the old style bearing sensors to switch contact on the FA. The EX was a lot easier going from PIC 1 to PIC 2.

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    I agree, retrofitting from a pic 1 to pic 2 is the least complicated.On the XLs there is a small circuit board that is used to allow the PIC to control the motor cooling solenoid. This coming winter I will be retrofitting one to an EB that has been converted to 134a.I believe it still has the 32sm controls.I have also retrofitted a 30hxc from the old PSIO board to comfortlinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budglo View Post
    I agree, retrofitting from a pic 1 to pic 2 is the least complicated.On the XLs there is a small circuit board that is used to allow the PIC to control the motor cooling solenoid. This coming winter I will be retrofitting one to an EB that has been converted to 134a.I believe it still has the 32sm controls.I have also retrofitted a 30hxc from the old PSIO board to comfortlinks.
    Is there a kit for the psio board to comfortlink or did you piece it together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freonrick View Post
    Is there a kit for the psio board to comfortlink or did you piece it together?
    Yes there is , but I think you could also piece one together easier once you see the parts list for the retro kit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freonrick View Post
    Is there a kit for the psio board to comfortlink or did you piece it together?
    There is a kit , which I got.It came with a new panel, compressor leads, transducers,flow switch ,etc.I must warn you though , there are no instructions, but it is pretty straight forward if you know both types of machines and have the most current SOM manual and wiring diagrams.

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    Very clean, nice job can. Fyi those old controls are worth some money.
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    Nice Work Can

    Hey Can, long time no see (talk)...

    How does it work on your continent with Carrier since you are an independent? Does Carrier play nice?

    Maybe some of you have had better luck but Carrier has given me so much trouble over the years I won't even consider the kit rather I go MCS.
    All my leon freaked out!

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    I just started on one today!!

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    nice looking job. Ive been involved in one so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by freonrick View Post
    looks good, did you have to change motor and bearing temp sensor?
    No need!
    Can

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    I only buy the control panel actuator and ISM and modify the control wiring for the power box and starter by myself! The cost will most cheaper!
    Can

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    Quote Originally Posted by budglo View Post
    Nice job.I have done 6 retrofits . Threee 19xls with r-22 and 3 19xrs with 134a.I have yet to use that huge panel that comes with the relays and ISM module.I ended up gutting the low voltage side of the starter and using the space for the new components.All in all they have turned out pretty good.Everyone seems happy with it and have not had any problems.
    I only buy the control panel actuator and ISM and modify the control wiring for the power box and starter by myself! The cost will most cheaper!
    Can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octopus View Post
    Very clean, nice job can. Fyi those old controls are worth some money.
    Thank you very much!
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