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    Which compressor? Manitowoc 1300 lb. head

    Manitowoc 1300 lb. head. (or so they tell me)

    What size / capacity compressor would / should this size machine use?
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    If I remember right its a 20,000 btu/hour copeland, but I'll check tomorrow for you

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    What's the model number of the machine?

    The Q1300 has a Copeland CS20K6E, but if you need to get a replacement compressor, you should always use the ones from Manitowoc.

    According to Jon Bailey, an HVAC-Talk member and tech service training manager for Manitowoc, the bill of material numbers will be different from those you'd find at the supply house because they have Copeland make a few changes...including beefier valves and bearings as I recall.

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    Icemeister is right!

    I could not have said it better myself. We are not just trying to sell you compressors at a higher price. We are trying to save you a headache. An off the shelf may even work ok for a few months but because ice machines have an 'agressive' harvest cycle the compressors have to be 'beefed' up from the normal spec.
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    76-2687-3 60hz single phase 208/230v $1,897.00 LIST price USD
    76-2688-3 60hz 3 phase 208/230v $2,065.00 LIST price USD

    If your not in the USA the 50hz compressor will have a different Model Number
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    Thanks Ice.

    I agree with you: use the matching head and condenser pair-up.

    But that wasn't my call. Apparently it was all bought and installed as: used; almost new. <g>

    Someone installed a 3 HP Trenton condensing unit as the Manitowoc remote condenser and the compressor either failed or maybe the condensing unit was a "rebuild" with a 2 HP compressor stuck in it. <g>

    "sometimes it makes ice - but not now" was the customer's summation. <g>

    I told them that I would only work on it against an upfront retainer. When that shows up I'll find out more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icemeister View Post
    What's the model number of the machine?

    The Q1300 has a Copeland CS20K6E, but if you need to get a replacement compressor, you should always use the ones from Manitowoc.

    According to Jon Bailey, an HVAC-Talk member and tech service training manager for Manitowoc, the bill of material numbers will be different from those you'd find at the supply house because they have Copeland make a few changes...including beefier valves and bearings as I recall.
    PHM
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    That sounds like a total nightmare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icemeister View Post
    That sounds like a total nightmare.
    In other words, right down PHM's alley, LOL.

    Sounds interesting....

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcrj View Post
    In other words, right down PHM's alley, LOL.
    Behave!
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    Quote Originally Posted by baub View Post
    Behave!
    I meant it in a good way!

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    Which is exactly how they found me. Whoever they called first said; WTF; over?

    Several people later somebody said: I know a guy . . .

    But it's nightmarish to start with, they really need a smaller head or a larger condensing unit, and I'm not dying to do it anyway. I'm mostly trying to free up my schedule so I can run down to Florida and buy a house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcrj View Post
    In other words, right down PHM's alley, LOL.

    Sounds interesting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Which is exactly how they found me. Whoever they called first said; WTF; over?

    Several people later somebody said: I know a guy . . .

    But it's nightmarish to start with, they really need a smaller head or a larger condensing unit, and I'm not dying to do it anyway. I'm mostly trying to free up my schedule so I can run down to Florida and buy a house.

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    You know you would rather make a Frankenstien work than do something boring like buying a house......

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    Wait, so is this a CVD unit? or a remote that someone hacked together to try to make a CVD unit? CVD units are hard enough with a matching condensing unit, but some random hacked-together piece of equipment would be something I would not touch. Quote them a new machine and leave it at that would be my course of action

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