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    Doesn't matter which puppet wins the title anymore....they have all been bought and do not represent the American peoples wishes. If they did, they would not be in office or hold office very long.

    The entire system is corrupt from top to bottom and the accomplice to the crime of corruption is frequently our own indifference.

    “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”

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    To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    I love how people around here just repeat whatever they hear on talk radio as if it were their own opinion. I can just imagine you guys sitting in your vans at lunch time going "YEAH! YEAH! YOU TELL 'EM, RUSH!"

    Then you come on HVAC-Talk at night and parrot whatever it was that Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity/Schnitt/Levin was talking about in a bid to gain conservative-points with the rest of your brainwashed buddies in B.F.E., Wisconsimichikota.
    So Rob, since you're such an expert on Conservative talk radio and TV, tell is which of those guys you listen to daily to know where we get our opinions from. We must get them from the opinion store since liberals believe humans (read-other than liberal politicians) are not born with the ability to think for themselves, much less formulate opinions without being spoon fed.

    You come on here and bash conservatives but never offer any of your own brilliance on what policies work based upon what facts or why the country should adopt your own radical views over those of the founding of this country. You are a sniper taking pot shots over a stone wall. Grow a pair, come out and tell us what your beliefs are and through what liberal outlet did you buy them.

    As for Salty's derrogatory term "Robme", so what is your nickname for Obama, who has stolen more wealth than anyone in recorded history? How about you Salty? What are your views? What do you believe in? Tell us of the glorious successes of Obama, Reid, Pelosi, how they have advanced the country, improved our standard of living and increased not only jobs but reduced underemployment.

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    Oooh good post Hearthman.

    We could use you at the political forum where Ive been a member for years.

    Its about 80% lib 15% Con and 5% libertarian.

    A few of the libs are avowed socialist and one full blown communist. Even a couple of pecky Brits who like to refer to Americas Imperialism.

    Lol.... I told them Argentina wanted their islands back.

    Its a lot of fun and even though there is only 15% Con representation we still out number the libs.

    Their MO is to pounce in great number on any Conn who addresses the obvious malignancy in the White House.

    I just stick to my guns and slowly beat them off me with ( common sense and truth.)

    In parenthesis is every liberals cryptonite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Six View Post
    Mao Tse Tung was a leader

    Hitler was a leader

    Stalin was a leader

    Idi Amin was a leader

    Robert Mugabe IS a leader.

    What are you implying ? That leadership alone is indicative of whats right ?

    Barrak Obama is leading millions into chronic poverty.

    He came out with his speech on how great he was because 165,000 jobs hace been created but failed to memtion that there were 195,000 fewer people employed in july than in june.

    He stood up there and with a cold heart claimed to have created millions of new jobs when millions have given up on looking for employmemt.


    No only really stupid people who cant add buy into his lies
    I was not suggesting a leader is/was right or wrong... rather what does a leader do?

    It is obvious to me if BHO spends all his time fussing about Mutt's tax returns... he (BHO) is NOT leading.

    Mutt, on the other hand, is out there telling folks what he plans to do. Refreshing... or at least to me it is.

    Will be interesting to see if Harry Ried will put up or shut up... I think Mutt got him on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hearthman View Post
    So Rob, since you're such an expert on Conservative talk radio and TV, tell is which of those guys you listen to daily to know where we get our opinions from. We must get them from the opinion store since liberals believe humans (read-other than liberal politicians) are not born with the ability to think for themselves, much less formulate opinions without being spoon fed.

    You come on here and bash conservatives but never offer any of your own brilliance on what policies work based upon what facts or why the country should adopt your own radical views over those of the founding of this country. You are a sniper taking pot shots over a stone wall. Grow a pair, come out and tell us what your beliefs are and through what liberal outlet did you buy them.

    As for Salty's derrogatory term "Robme", so what is your nickname for Obama, who has stolen more wealth than anyone in recorded history? How about you Salty? What are your views? What do you believe in? Tell us of the glorious successes of Obama, Reid, Pelosi, how they have advanced the country, improved our standard of living and increased not only jobs but reduced underemployment.
    GREAT post, however IMHO you missed one... 'and how much did their liberal hero's lower the debt?'... <grin>
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    I was not suggesting a leader is/was right or wrong... rather what does a leader do?

    It is obvious to me if BHO spends all his time fussing about Mutt's tax returns... he (BHO) is NOT leading.

    Mutt, on the other hand, is out there telling folks what he plans to do. Refreshing... or at least to me it is.

    Will be interesting to see if Harry Ried will put up or shut up... I think Mutt got him on that one.
    Sorry ga-hvac-tech.

    I wasn't sure where you were coming from and mixed you up with one of the resident libz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    I love how people around here just repeat whatever they hear on talk radio as if it were their own opinion. I can just imagine you guys sitting in your vans at lunch time going "YEAH! YEAH! YOU TELL 'EM, RUSH!"

    Then you come on HVAC-Talk at night and parrot whatever it was that Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity/Schnitt/Levin was talking about in a bid to gain conservative-points with the rest of your brainwashed buddies in B.F.E., Wisconsimichikota.
    You see Robby here's the deal. We conservatives listen to talk radio because the traditional news media, tv and print, has chosen to embrace the socialist viewpoint and throw the constitutions of the country on their heads.

    We listen to Rush, etc, etc, in order to get news that will go unreported to the drones (credit:Mark Levin) listening to MSNBC.

    Chew on this one a while. http://budget.senate.gov/republican/...1-3b5b346dc132 Obama admin"WANTS" to increase welfare. Why do you suppose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Now for the $Mil question: Is one the right answer today and the other the right answer tomorrow (or the right answer yesterday)... or is one of the two choices above the right answer ALL The time? And if the latter is true... then why do we not stick to one? MeThinks within this last question is the solution to the problem.
    In my opinion the latter is true, and demonstrable. Economically speaking, it seems that whenever the USA was sticking to limited government power such as dictated by the Constitution, the economy would grow. Adversely, whenever the government was given more power, the economy would slump.

    Here is an example that I find to be particularly relevant. FDR and the Great Depression. His general strategy, his new deal, was to "stimulate" the economy artificially by inflating the monetary supply and effectively throwing money at the problem. This is in great part why it lasted so darn long. You can spend your way out of debt just as easily as you can drink yourself sober. We're seeing a very similar scenario play today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bb View Post
    Chew on this one a while. http://budget.senate.gov/republican/...1-3b5b346dc132 Obama admin"WANTS" to increase welfare. Why do you suppose?
    Man, I hate to be a wet blanket, but that program was apparently started in 2004. Not exactly an albatross to hang around Obama's neck, and I think Dubya may not have room for another!

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    Yes, the massive expansion of the Food Stamp program was catapulted in 2004 under W so yes, he is partially resposible as are the rest of Congress. However, expanding the Food Stamp program is a liberal concept-not a conservative one. The libs have always whined that the Right never crossed the aisle to meet them. Well, in this case, W got on a boat and rowed across the Atlantic then hiked across the continent and swam to Hawaii to meet the Left. Similar issue with the Rx for seniors program. Another example of a 'conservative' acting like a liberal.

    So, to attach blame on those programs as part of our current mess is to attack liberalism and the Right's spineless leadership.

    To re-state the situation, in every case where the Left has expanded social programs, the standard and quality of living for those targeted has gone down.

    As if the Food Stamp program isn't big enough we have the USDA spending gobs of money advertising for people to sign up for food stamps! This is an outrage! Talk about more paid voters...The Left is hellbent on destroying people's will to be an individual to vote themselves into slavery by the Left. It is sickening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skip217 View Post
    Man, I hate to be a wet blanket, but that program was apparently started in 2004. Not exactly an albatross to hang around Obama's neck, and I think Dubya may not have room for another!
    What other albatrosses are currently hanging around Bush's neck ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrancis View Post
    In my opinion the latter is true, and demonstrable. Economically speaking, it seems that whenever the USA was sticking to limited government power such as dictated by the Constitution, the economy would grow. Adversely, whenever the government was given more power, the economy would slump.

    Here is an example that I find to be particularly relevant. FDR and the Great Depression. His general strategy, his new deal, was to "stimulate" the economy artificially by inflating the monetary supply and effectively throwing money at the problem. This is in great part why it lasted so darn long. You can spend your way out of debt just as easily as you can drink yourself sober. We're seeing a very similar scenario play today.
    Great post!

    And yes FDRs social programs perpetuated the Great Depression as are Obama's perpetuating the great recession.

    Your typical Liberal politician is more concerned with making as many people wards of the state than increasing the wealth of a nation.

    That way he has more indebted constituents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skip217 View Post
    Man, I hate to be a wet blanket, but that program was apparently started in 2004. Not exactly an albatross to hang around Obama's neck, and I think Dubya may not have room for another!
    Who ever said W was a conservative?
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