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    Quote Originally Posted by coolperfect View Post
    Those horse blinders you wear , do you a least take them off when you go to bed!I commented on your post because I saw something that was dead wrong,I watch the market,I own over 30 stocks. I could care less about gay vs.whatever! I have never heard a CEO say we lost money because of any boycott in all the years I have listened to conference calls!
    Thirty whole stocks wow I am impressed. Boycotts can and have worked and why would a CEO discuss the effectiveness on a conference call with small stockholders.

    JCP is and has been a poorly run company for many years, the decision to hire a homosexual as a spokes person and a campaign that highlights gays is not in their best interest. Their demographic is families and they have chosen to insult that demographic so it has undoubtedly hurt their bottom line.

    I know dozens of families that will not shop at JCP any longer and regardless of what their actions in the future they will never return.

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    First of all they wanted their bedrooms to be private. Now they want them public. I say this because the discerning factor of gaydom is sexual orientation. Two guys for example have often historically lived together without any funny business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolperfect View Post
    Those horse blinders you wear , do you a least take them off when you go to bed!I commented on your post because I saw something that was dead wrong,I watch the market,I own over 30 stocks. I could care less about gay vs.whatever! I have never heard a CEO say we lost money because of any boycott in all the years I have listened to conference calls!
    Funny thing perfect. Have you ever heard of the "Dixie Chicks"? They were at the top of country music until they trashed President Bush in London. The lead singer Maines said that she was ashamed that President Bush was from Texas.

    Well Texas sure was ashamed that the Dixie Chicks were from Texas. They were boycotted by country music fans all across the country. They went off the charts and radio stations overnight and are no longer in country music.

    Well since you are from NYC you might have heard of them maybe at a small club in Greenwich Village playing to their new gay fans. Boycotts do work and like classical said no CEO is ever going to admit that their sponsorship of the gay agenda has cost them a massive loss in sales to pro family Christians and citizens across the country. So you believe and say what you want. I for one know better.

    Also the sponsors who dropped ads on the Rush Limbaugh radio show after he said disparaging remarks about a whoring law student have lost millions because listeners have been boycotting them. Thank you, thank you very much

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    Quote Originally Posted by classical View Post
    Thirty whole stocks wow I am impressed. Boycotts can and have worked and why would a CEO discuss the effectiveness on a conference call with small stockholders.

    JCP is and has been a poorly run company for many years, the decision to hire a homosexual as a spokes person and a campaign that highlights gays is not in their best interest. Their demographic is families and they have chosen to insult that demographic so it has undoubtedly hurt their bottom line.

    I know dozens of families that will not shop at JCP any longer and regardless of what their actions in the future they will never return.
    It happens to be an SEC regulation that if you own 1 share of a stock or half the company you have the right to the same information.There are many ways to access the calls.And yes I am very proud of my portfolio of $1,700,000 with a year to date of just under 12%.

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    That there is a good comparisoon glen,one or two people in the limelight saying stupid stuff. If you want know someone who says stupid things it's the CEO of Emerson Elec.David Farr.On a conference he blamed the government because he doesn't know how to run his company.That would not be so bad except other companies in the same sector are doing great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pas1216 View Post
    This site is so full of homophobes it is not funny.

    How are gay people "cramming their lifestyle down our throats"? And "assaulting our children with their perverted lifestyle"? I would like some examples because I don't see it.
    If you don't see the abuses that homosexuals are imposing on others, you are either blind, ignorant, don't want to acknowledge what is so blatant or just see what you want to see. No matter which of these reasons, you are not being honest.

    If homosexuals were not so blatantly offensive in their displaying sexual content, there would be no issue. Homosexuallity has always existed and most likely always will exist, so the differences are obviously in how blatantly offensive the homosexual community has become.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie1KRR View Post
    My recent X wife is a hair dresser, without stereotype, there were a lot of gay guys at her shop. The never bothered me a bit, we all hang out, and in fact they were the best company as they were the most hilarious of the group and I probably never laughed so hard.

    But, when it comes to rights and parades and stuff, stuff does get a little out of hand IMO. I'm not into the biblical stuff, so I'll stay far away from that.

    The way I see it, you are born how you are, and you just go with that...But I don't need or want it forced on me with parades and stuff. Just do your thing like straight couples do, ya know? you don't even see straight couples doing much more in public than holding hands normally, right?
    (lately the public is seeing way to many show offs, showing their pride in my humble opinion)

    In my humble opinion, again, it would become far more exceptable once it's not a revolution, and flamboyant acting out in protest....Esp. the way those parades are carried on....Just sayin' I'm as accepting as they come to this kind of thing, but when I see the parade, I just have to roll my eyes. I could be way off, and biblical stuff aside, I just don't see how a parade of guys acting out is going to raise awareness or especially any understanding.
    When I was a teen, I worked for a hair salon owned by an openly homosexual man who was very active in the community. Hell, I deliberately wore tight fitting clothes to work because he always gave me more money when I did....... Of course, I was a much leaner, more fit RoBo back in those days. Since I mention this man, I feel a need to also say I admired him as a community supporter and feel that the world lost a good person when he died young from an anurism from an accident.

    And yes, the homosexual community has brought most of the negative attitude toward them on themselves. Frank Zappa, may he rest in peace, was only being funny when he sang; "...maybe....someday....we'll all be gay....". If that ever happens, humanity will die out from lack of "breeders".
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    If you don't see the abuses that homosexuals are imposing on others, you are either blind, ignorant, don't want to acknowledge what is so blatant or just see what you want to see. No matter which of these reasons, you are not being honest.

    If homosexuals were not so blatantly offensive in their displaying sexual content, there would be no issue. Homosexuallity has always existed and most likely always will exist, so the differences are obviously in how blatantly offensive the homosexual community has become.
    It was a fair question, because everything is relative.

    What is so obvious to you that others who don't see it have to be "blind, ignorant..." is just non-existant from a different perspective.

    I think you owe pas1216 an answer -- not to start a mudslinging argument full of insults, but just so that a person with an opposing opinion can have some insight to your opinion. Maybe pas1216 would agree with you, maybe he won't, but it can't hurt to have more understanding, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skip217 View Post
    It was a fair question, because everything is relative.

    What is so obvious to you that others who don't see it have to be "blind, ignorant..." is just non-existant from a different perspective.

    I think you owe pas1216 an answer -- not to start a mudslinging argument full of insults, but just so that a person with an opposing opinion can have some insight to your opinion. Maybe pas1216 would agree with you, maybe he won't, but it can't hurt to have more understanding, right?
    And I think that you need to dictate to others what you think. I stand by my answer that if someone claims to not see what the homosexual community is doing to deliberately offend and berate those who do not approve of homosexuallity, for whatever reason, then those making those claims are deceitful and dishonest. You are now in that catagory, as far as I am concerned.

    Here is even a progressive minded understanding of what I have stated;
    By what authority, I ask, do these lifestyle choice members have to suddenly wish to overturn thousands of years of recognized morality (that sexual relations are between a man and a woman) and suddenly decide that choice as a “right” to have sex with members of the same sex?
    http://progressivethink.com/?p=5920

    So, not all homosexuals or "progressive" (a term made up to replace "communist and socialist" in the early 20th Century) thinking persons are as ignorant of what is going on as the radical, in your face homosexual's are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    And I think that you need to dictate to others what you think. I stand by my answer that if someone claims to not see what the homosexual community is doing to deliberately offend and berate those who do not approve of homosexuallity, for whatever reason, then those making those claims are deceitful and dishonest. You are now in that catagory, as far as I am concerned...
    whoa whoa whoa -- relax!

    First of all, I'm not sure what you mean that I need "to dictate to others what [I] think."

    My point was just that pas1216 had asked specifically how the gay lifestyle was being "crammed down your throats", but he didn't get a specific answer, just an exasperated version of the old "If you have to ask...".

    Please understand, I don't hve an issue with your view at all. I was just saying that it's probably more constructive and helpful -- and far less provocative and/or insulting -- to be able to say, "When the gay community does A,B, and C, I feel as though they are forcing their lifestyle on me" instead of "If you don't see it your a liar."

    That's all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post

    If homosexuals were not so blatantly offensive in their displaying sexual content, there would be no issue.
    Are homosexuals gathering on your front lawn and having sex?

    The only issue is YOU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pas1216 View Post
    Are homosexuals gathering on your front lawn and having sex?

    The only issue is YOU.
    Let me ask you, do you find Christians to be blatantly offensive? Or any religion for that matter?
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