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  1. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    That's why we have to STOP the EPA from making it virtually impossible to make things here.
    Are you saying that the EPA is driving up labor costs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcrj View Post
    Are you saying that the EPA is driving up labor costs?

    I'm saying that the cost of compliance with the bureaucracy is one of several controllable elements that makes the production cost of many items in the US to be far above the cost that Americans are willing to pay for finished goods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    I'm saying that the cost of compliance with the bureaucracy is one of several controllable elements that makes the production cost of many items in the US to be far above the cost that Americans are willing to pay for finished goods.
    Yeah but it doesn't help that most people want cheap, cheap, cheaper. We see it with the shoppers ourselves.

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    I was told nordyne makes their own caps. is that true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpit View Post
    I was told nordyne makes their own caps. is that true?
    Yes,the exploding ones.

    I doubt it. The last Nordyne units I installed had Chinese caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC5096 View Post
    Yes,the exploding ones.

    I doubt it. The last Nordyne units I installed had Chinese caps.
    Probably have a factory there

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    and here I was thinking it was UNIONS that was ruining manufacturing industry in America.

    If overseen by same QA protocol, there's no reason why highly automated production line spits out better product by simply having the factory in USA.

    Automation is the key to consistent and high quality parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpit View Post
    I was told nordyne makes their own caps. is that true?
    If they do, they are very bad at making them...
    If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.

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    This happened in 2008 in my area. Couldnt find a cap anywhere.

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    The old caps with PCB's would last. Of course, if anything is good, it gets outlawed. But on the other hand, how much easier can a service call be?

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    The two biggest reason this country has the EPA is to shut the tree huggers up, and for the added money that section 608 and 609 brings in from licence fees, and fines! IMHO if R-22 was really that bad, they would just completly outlaw it and make us do a changeover anytime we worked on a unit containing R-22.

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    [QUOTE=GrumpyPawPaw;13877731]The old caps with PCB's would last. Of course, if anything is good, it gets outlawed. But on the other hand, how much easier can a service call be?[/QUOTE]

    So I thought as I threw in the disconnect, saw the fan spin, felt the lines and heard the brief buzz of the compressor. Easy peezy cap, last call of the day and five minutes from home and on the eve of a long vacation.

    Who the hell's idea was it to hide a cap behind the electric panel in a separate compartment five inches from the compressor in an old Bryant? Old battleship grey looking thing.

    Still pulling 4.12 out of five on the fan side but...damn that was awkward. Two minute diagnostic...30 minutes to change the damn thing.

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    Yup... Seen a lot more blown or bulged caps this year than recent years... Thought it was just me !!! But I guess not... Not sure what the deal is

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