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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Well in the military when you are in charge of a platoon that platoon is called....your platoon when talked to directly....I can think of a few more examples if you need them...just let me know.
    Since when is a platoon leader and elected position? LOL
    If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what will never be. (Thomas Jefferson 1816)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    I was in Baltimore all last week and thought of you however, I was totally busy the entire time with business in Baltimore and Washington DC. And, was in York, PA as well. But unable to get away from the business meetings. Otherwise I would have called you to get together.

    Hugh
    That's a shame. You were so close. I could have met with you in either city.
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gib's Son View Post
    Oh no....say it aint so!
    I know! The things we learn about those we think we know.....
    Government is a disease...
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    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
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    Shouldn't the citizens of Boston have the right to decide whether they personally want to support a business rather than have an elected official dictate to them what will be available to them?
    If the city feels the business is open to the public and is practising discrimination (In this case having a discrimatory policy even though they don't refuse service) then the business is operating illeagally. I see little difference between having a public policy against a minority group and blocking the door and handing out axe handles. Either way discrimantes.
    When a business is open to the pubic everything changes and certain freedoms take a back seat.
    Here there was a phothgraphy studio that refused to take wedding pictures of a gay couple. The couple sued and won.
    I know it seems strange that a business can't choose who they will serve. The price of being public. I guess the signs that said "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" isn't legal.
    "What Fools these mortals be"....Puck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    Hey Student, it seems that when you are unable to effectively attack someone else's arguement you just switch to attacking the person instead.

    Robo has made some solid arguements in opposition to your position.
    I am sorry that it seems that way, I'm just a little tired of hearing complaints about such insignificant topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Kids! What are we going to do with them?

    Speaking of which, I had the opportunity to evaluate sales speeches given by college students at a local college the other day. They were quite impressive.
    Maybe I should take a break from HVAC talk since my being slightly younger than the majority here is not allowing me to have the same ideals as many. It was the older generations that allowed the politicians to take over while everyone sat around in their comfy recliners doing nothing was it not? You blame the younger generations but was it not the older guys n gals who raised us? The same older people that bought us video games and forced pills down our throats because the drug companies pushed doctors to sell ADD medication?

    Thank you for working hard and keeping America strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Maybe I should take a break from HVAC talk since my being slightly younger than the majority here is not allowing me to have the same ideals as many. It was the older generations that allowed the politicians to take over while everyone sat around in their comfy recliners doing nothing was it not? You blame the younger generations but was it not the older guys n gals who raised us? The same older people that bought us video games and forced pills down our throats because the drug companies pushed doctors to sell ADD medication?

    Thank you for working hard and keeping America strong.
    All generations share the blame as to how we got to where we are. The generation that elected FDR did us no favor. So, I don't anyone is placing all the blame on the current generation. My own parents and grandparents made some pretty poor decisions for which I am left to live with.

    What matters now is what we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    All generations share the blame as to how we got to where we are. The generation that elected FDR did us no favor. So, I don't anyone is placing all the blame on the current generation. My own parents and grandparents made some pretty poor decisions for which I am left to live with.

    What matters now is what we do.
    I don't understand your statement.
    "What Fools these mortals be"....Puck

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Maybe I should take a break from HVAC talk since my being slightly younger than the majority here is not allowing me to have the same ideals as many. It was the older generations that allowed the politicians to take over while everyone sat around in their comfy recliners doing nothing was it not? You blame the younger generations but was it not the older guys n gals who raised us? The same older people that bought us video games and forced pills down our throats because the drug companies pushed doctors to sell ADD medication?

    Thank you for working hard and keeping America strong.

    Personally I hope you don't take a break. Many people as they age have this mistaken attitude that they are the best generation and seem surprised when confronted with another opinion. Confrontation is good.
    I was coming of age in the 60's (early) and the older generation came down on some of us with clubs and bullets. Talk about over reaction.
    One thing though, politicans always take over. In this country they are put in power by a majority of largely uninformed population many of who haven't read a book since high school.
    But often your generation isn't so different in many ways. A little history will show that. The younger gen has always had to bear the criticism of the older one. Me personally, I wish I could do it all over and envy those that are just starting this amazing adventure.
    In fairness though, you probably asked for the vidio games but probably not the pills.
    "What Fools these mortals be"....Puck

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    If the city feels the business is open to the public and is practising discrimination (In this case having a discrimatory policy even though they don't refuse service) then the business is operating illeagally. I see little difference between having a public policy against a minority group and blocking the door and handing out axe handles. Either way discrimantes.
    When a business is open to the pubic everything changes and certain freedoms take a back seat.
    Here there was a phothgraphy studio that refused to take wedding pictures of a gay couple. The couple sued and won.
    I know it seems strange that a business can't choose who they will serve. The price of being public. I guess the signs that said "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" isn't legal.
    So, private businesses are not "public"? Only under a Socialist styled government. Looks like you Socialist minded folks are winning. We are rapidly becoming the United Socialist's of Amerika.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    I am sorry that it seems that way, I'm just a little tired of hearing complaints about such insignificant topics.
    And yet, not tired enough to stop posting drivel in response.....pity.....what can we do to make you more tired?
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Maybe I should take a break from HVAC talk since my being slightly younger than the majority here is not allowing me to have the same ideals as many. It was the older generations that allowed the politicians to take over while everyone sat around in their comfy recliners doing nothing was it not? You blame the younger generations but was it not the older guys n gals who raised us? The same older people that bought us video games and forced pills down our throats because the drug companies pushed doctors to sell ADD medication?

    Thank you for working hard and keeping America strong.
    I don't think you will get any argument from my age group that is has been mostly socialist thinking leftists of my age group that created this mess. I was part of that group when I was a teen, but I grew out of my need for others to take care of me. It is a shame that so many of my peers did not.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    Quote Originally Posted by hvacker View Post
    I don't understand your statement.
    FDR was a flaming Socialist. Obama is trying to outdo the harmful things that FDR did to the U.S.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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