another whackjob goes on a shooting spree

[printer2]

I have to agree with Tool, you do seem to side on the "restrict and control" crowd.

what you think is "sensible" gun restriction/control maybe fine for you, for the rest of us we'd prefer less restrictions

That is because you only see two shades of grey.

[Brian GC]

What do you consider an "assault rifle"? That is a name and classification invented by the anti-gun people to serve their political purposes.

Am I wrong in calling an AR-15 with a 100 round clip an “assault rifle” just because some bozo takes that particular rifle out hunting?

So all anti-gun regulations do is declaw the cat so it can't defend itself against the pit bull.

Just like the bad analogies of the spoon & Oprah and the pencil & misspelled words, this one is too. A cat cannot defend itself against a pitbull whether it has claws or not. Whereas, if a trained person had a handgun he could take out most criminals in the act. We are not defenseless against criminals when we are unarmed. We typically use our heads to keep us out of trouble and almost never use firearms to avert an attack.

I have never heard a good explanation for the old NRA slogan “guns don’t kill, people do”. It seems to be passed on by impressionable gun enthusiasts with out really thinking about it. If it were true then it could be used on other regulated harmful products such as drugs. How does this sound, “drugs don’t get you high, people do”. Sound stupid, right? Well, there is not much difference in reasoning. True, there are many ways to kill a person, but guns seem to be the "drug" of choice.

[jmac00]

Polite society? Canadian of course.

It was interesting that we had a discussion of traveling through the U.S. today brought on by this shooting. Seems that all of use had stories about being in a part of town where someone said 'Boy, you get yourself out of here if you know what is good for you.' Now not to say that Canada does not have its troubles but I can not think of a neighborhood were the average person would fear walking down the street because 'you are not from around here'. Mind you some of the reserves at night are a land unto their own, I would not recommend sightseeing at night.

Do we need to be armed here? No. Would I want to be armed when I come visit your country? Yes.

Now as far as keeping guns out of the wrong hands, I already said that if someone gets it in their mind they want to do something they are going to do it. I can see screening people for a gun license, basically keeping the really gross screw ups from having them. I was in our Psych building (hospital) today and passed by people (out patients) that I would not feel comfortable with them having a pen never mind a gun.

Our biggest problem with guns is with gangs right now. We do get the odd flake shoot someone here but usually it is personal. Now if the gangs could actually hit what they were shooting at (each other) we would not mind too much. But they spray and pray, watching too many movies I guess. And lately they have been taking to wearing armor so that the cops have a hard time taking them down.

So basically I am giving you some idea on how things are up here. Never said you are like us and should live the same, different circumstances. So is there a solution to a shooting like you had and similar ones we had? The only one I gave was not to glorify the act and make the shooter famous. It seems that is what they want now days when they do these senseless shootings.

man are you full of it, I have been to Toronto and Cobourg and Trenton, Belleville and Kingston, all of them have "bad sections" and you know it. Your Jingoistic Patriotism is admirable, but don't try and pawn it off as the greatest country ever. Canada has just as many problems as the rest of the world, you must be living in the gated community where your world is seen through rose colored glasses. Which would explain your attitude that the Canadian Government can do no wrong

[LibertyTree]

I smell government mischief. Just in time for the UN Small Arms Treaty... Dude looks like your standard doped up patsy

[jmac00]

Am I wrong in calling an AR-15 with a 100 round clip an “assault rifle” just because some bozo takes that particular rifle out hunting?

The rest of your argument is worthless without proper knowledge of the topic.

There is a difference between a *Magazine* and a *clip*
learn the difference

Geez you sound just like Rep.Carolyn McCarthy, see has no idea what the difference is either. She (and I suspect you) think we all can run out and buy *heat seeking* bullets to

sheesh

[Gib's Son]

There is a difference between a *Magazine* and a *clip*
learn the difference

In Horseshack voice: oooohh...oooh..oooooh!

[jmac00]

In Horseshack voice: oooohh...oooh..oooooh!

BWHAHAHAHAHA

[printer2]

man are you full of it, I have been to Toronto and Cobourg and Trenton, Belleville and Kingston, all of them have "bad sections" and you know it. Your Jingoistic Patriotism is admirable, but don't try and pawn it off as the greatest country ever. Canada has just as many problems as the rest of the world, you must be living in the gated community where your world is seen through rose colored glasses. Which would explain your attitude that the Canadian Government can do no wrong

Gated community? Never seen one till I drove down south. Bad sectors maybe, but not to the point where I felt I needed to walk down the street with a gun. Ride my bike to work most days and pass the hookers on the street, was born and grew up in this neighborhood. As I said, we have our own problems also. We have people wind up dead over a case of beer. Stupid but that is life.

[Hugh B]

Am I wrong in calling an AR-15 with a 100 round clip an “assault rifle” just because some bozo takes that particular rifle out hunting?



Just like the bad analogies of the spoon & Oprah and the pencil & misspelled words, this one is too. A cat cannot defend itself against a pitbull whether it has claws or not. Whereas, if a trained person had a handgun he could take out most criminals in the act. We are not defenseless against criminals when we are unarmed. We typically use our heads to keep us out of trouble and almost never use firearms to avert an attack.

I have never heard a good explanation for the old NRA slogan “guns don’t kill, people do”. It seems to be passed on by impressionable gun enthusiasts with out really thinking about it. If it were true then it could be used on other regulated harmful products such as drugs. How does this sound, “drugs don’t get you high, people do”. Sound stupid, right? Well, there is not much difference in reasoning. True, there are many ways to kill a person, but guns seem to be the "drug" of choice.

Perhaps you can help me out here a little bit. I have an AR-15 but only have a couple of 30 round magazines. Do I have an assault rifle?

Please define "assault rifle" for me. And don't confuse a drum with a rifle. Just tell me what constitutes an assault rifle.

[RoBoTeq]

Perhaps you can help me out here a little bit. I have an AR-15 but only have a couple of 30 round magazines. Do I have an assault rifle?

Please define "assault rifle" for me. And don't confuse a drum with a rifle. Just tell me what constitutes an assault rifle.

Hell, I have a Ruger 10/22 with a 50 round rotary magazine and a couple of 25 round clip together banana clips, so these anti-firearms idiots claim it is an assault weapon. I believe the designation can be made for any semi-automatic rifle that has a magazine containing more than 10 rounds.

When trying to pace a running groundhog dodging in and out of weeds and tree stumps, I needed all 25 rounds.....but I did get it......two down....

[Hugh B]

Hell, I have a Ruger 10/22 with a 50 round rotary magazine and a couple of 25 round clip together banana clips, so these anti-firearms idiots claim it is an assault weapon. I believe the designation can be made for any semi-automatic rifle that has a magazine containing more than 10 rounds.

When trying to pace a running groundhog dodging in and out of weeds and tree stumps, I needed all 25 rounds.....but I did get it......two down....

Robo, that is the point I am getting at. Liberals cannot actually define an "assault rifle" and have it make sense. Take the 100 round drum away from the AR-15 and is it still an assault rifle? If so, then how is it different from your Ruger 10/22? What makes a so called assault rifle an assault rifle?

As soon as they start creating a definition they either include something that should not be included or exclude something they did not mean to include. Each of the so called assult rifle definitions I have seen were based on some "evil look" and not upon actual function or firepower.

Of course we know the real objective is to get rid of all guns and therefore the liberal anti-gun people are actually anti-constitutionalists.

[RoBoTeq]

The most accurate definition of an assault rifle is any rifle used to assault someone. "Assault" is a verb, not a noun. Assault is a description of the use of a weapon, not a description of the weapon itself. What is a dog that has been trained to assault on command when it is not commanded to assault? A dog.

[Hugh B]

The most accurate definition of an assault rifle is any rifle used to assault someone. "Assault" is a verb, not a noun. Assault is a description of the use of a weapon, not a description of the weapon itself. What is a dog that has been trained to assault on command when it is not commanded to assault? A dog.

You are absolutely right. The entire term assult rifle is absurd given that any gun used in that particular way becomes an assault weapon.

The same with the so called war on terror. Terror is an action used by the enemy. The words war on terror are used because they refuse to use what it really should be called a war on radical islam.