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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    The issue in Scranton is fairly simple for rational thinking. Scranton government is spending more than it can tax citizens of Scranton or bilk out of the Federal Government to pay for it's spending. Very simply put; irresponsible fiscal operation.

    Rather than fix the problems that caused Scranton to go broke; spending more than it has, Scranton's mayor wants to raise taxes from an immediate 28% to a future 78% so that more private sector workers in Scranton can pay for public sector operations.

    Even though Scraton's population has been in a decline since WWII, Scranton's government had grown. This does not make sense. The more Scranton taxes citizens, the more citizens will be leaving Scranton and the more businesses in Scranton will not be able to operate. The mayors desires to fix a problem by extending that which caused the problem is a rapid slide downhill to economic disaster.

    What Scranton needs is a mayor and city council that are fiscally responsible and who will make tough decisions that will be unpopular with labor unions and government employees. What Scranton needs is someone like Mayor Walker.
    Its the liberal economic paradox.

    How can they NOT grasp that concept ?

    Yes higher taxes kills jobs, and lowers revenue.

    There is no rational explanation for what goes on their heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the mojo View Post
    No, what Scranton needs is a women,a Democrat,a Rhodes scholar,math does not lie. Her name is Gina Raimondo.
    I am not familiar with her, but a quick search seems to show she is quite a fiscally responsible person. Maybe have someone like her as treasurer and someone like Scott Walker as mayor to get Scranton back on it's feet.

    It's not much better in Harrisburg, PA. In fact, all of PA is having issues. PA is has a heavy labor union influence and is mostly Democrat. The glory days of Tammany Hall politics just are not able to survive when the excess money has dried up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    I am not familiar with her, but a quick search seems to show she is quite a fiscally responsible person. Maybe have someone like her as treasurer and someone like Scott Walker as mayor to get Scranton back on it's feet.

    It's not much better in Harrisburg, PA. In fact, all of PA is having issues. PA is has a heavy labor union influence and is mostly Democrat. The glory days of Tammany Hall politics just are not able to survive when the excess money has dried up.
    Margaret Thatcher said the problem with socialism is that you're eventually going to run out of other peoples money.

    Of course this isn't exactly socialism but liberals and socialist seem to share the same economic beliefs.

    Borrow and spend until there is no more credit or jobs or people who can pay taxes because they've become dependent on the government.

    These tons essentially have turned into Greece and no one will buy their bonds because the fallacies of liberal economics have been exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Six View Post
    Margaret Thatcher said the problem with socialism is that you're eventually going to run out of other peoples money.

    Of course this isn't exactly socialism but liberals and socialist seem to share the same economic beliefs.

    Borrow and spend until there is no more credit or jobs or people who can pay taxes because they've become dependent on the government.

    These tons essentially have turned into Greece and no one will buy their bonds because the fallacies of liberal economics have been exposed.
    Actually, government jobs are socialistic. Socialism is not a bad thing overall, it is just not a good thing for Americans to have in too much abundance. Socialism in a Capitalistic nation can and will be abused greatly by those who propogate Socialism. This is what has happened in U.S. government.

    Society needs a legal system consisting of a police force to maintain laws and a justice system to facilitate the workings of those laws. Fire departments worked quite effectively for most of the time span of the U.S. as private, volunteer enterprises, but in some urban areas are better served as government entities as well. These are both Socialist entities.

    There is no need whatsoever for organized labor involvement in any public sector job. It is simply preposterous to make the claim that government needs to have labor unions to protect government workers from wrong doing by government. Public sector jobs should never be more lucrative in pay or benefits than are comparable private sector jobs. If we the people won't support high cost of private sector labor, why should we be forced to support high costs in the public sector? These are things that Scott Walker has addressed in his success of cutting government spending by quite a bit.

    So, a little Socialism in a free market, Capitalistic country goes a long way and should never be allowed to grow into the beaurocratic monsters that we have in American governments.

    There is no free lunch or free services of any kind. These things must be paid for by American citizens. We the people need to be more responsible in keeping government spending under control because it is ultimately we who have to pay for all of governments alleged free services.
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