Manitowoc BY1005W Harvest Problem

[danny x]

When the Machine goes into harvest I get pressures that correspond to the book (170Head/80-85Suction) however, the ice will come free on the left hand side of the evaporator, and then melt out of the right side until it finally drops(it eventually locks out on long harvest). I used sanitizer but it made no difference. One thing I noticed was the discharge line would start out at 160 plus degrees, and then would be room temperature, but the pressure was still 80 to 85 lbs. I find it hard to be under charged being my pressures are so close, but could this be the case?

On a side note, it is always the right hand side of the evaporator that gets "stuck"

Dan

[frozensolid]

Sounds like a classic case of evaporator grid separation. Shine a flashlight in the ice free grid where it sticks. I think you will find the grid separating from the evap plate. If so throw the machine away and buy a new one.

[t527ed]

make sure ice mold is not bent or scratched. let plate dry and see what it looks like. sanitizer will not remove mineral build up.

[vlux]

Ive heard of guys using the wrong cleaner and having some weird problems, but on one side, could it be a restriction, just guessing

[danny x]

Originally posted by frozensolid
Sounds like a classic case of evaporator grid separation. Shine a flashlight in the ice free grid where it sticks. I think you will find the grid separating from the evap plate. If so throw the machine away and buy a new one.

It is a half dice machine, and some of the cross sections of the grid do move slightly(or do stick out of the plate slightly). Also, at one point in the grid it looks like someone grinded the cross section or it somehow got burnt or damaged, manager says no one torched it. I used Nu-Calgons Nickel-Safe Ice Machine Cleaner which meets Manitowoc’s specification #GES-6 and a soft brush. I had a feeling the machine was shot.

On a side note, the machine is from 96. At what point do you tell your customer it has outlived its useful life and is not worth repairing?

Thanks

Dan

[chillerout1]

if the grid is seperated you are at the point of telling the customer it has outlived its usefulness

[jonbailey19808]

Manitowoc Ice machine have an average commercial life of 10 years. Yours looks like it is 10 years old. Time for a new one. For info call the factory tech surport.

[ice machine undertaker]

Originally posted by chillerout1
if the grid is seperated you are at the point of telling the customer it has outlived its usefulness

You call. We haul..

): ):

[gateway ice]

Originally posted by frozensolid
Sounds like a classic case of evaporator grid separation. Shine a flashlight in the ice free grid where it sticks. I think you will find the grid separating from the evap plate. If so throw the machine away and buy a new one.

I'm betting you are correct on this. I've seen this a LOT.

[ducklr1]

I used Nu-Calgons Nickel-Safe Ice Machine Cleaner which meets Manitowoc’s specification #GES-6 and a soft brush. I had a feeling the machine was shot.

On a side note, the machine is from 96. At what point do you tell your customer it has outlived its useful life and is not worth repairing?

Thanks

Dan
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[Turtleman]

I agree w/ other posts sounds like you need a new evaporator plate. They are easy to replace. I have always wanted to try and replace the damaged grids just for fun, but have not attempted it yet. curious if any one out there has done this successfully?

[Turtleman]

I meant repair the damged grids!

[2sac]

To attempt to repair grids would be nothing more than a temporary fix.

[Mike19]

Another tech at my company pulled a whole row off the evaporator in a cornelius, so it would make a double row of cubes. It worked ok to keep it going until we put a new machine in.

[timebuilder]

On a side note, the machine is from 96. At what point do you tell your customer it has outlived its useful life and is not worth repairing?

Thanks

Dan

This is that point.

By the time you replace the evap and ice mold grid, you are well on your way to the price of a new machine.

[Mike19]

This is that point.

By the time you replace the evap and ice mold grid, you are well on your way to the price of a new machine.

I know what you mean. I just did an evap in a IB1024, under warranty. I think the evap was over $1000, plus it took me five hours to put it in.

[timebuilder]

I know what you mean. I just did an evap in a IB1024, under warranty. I think the evap was over $1000, plus it took me five hours to put it in.

I'm afraid to ask you what Mani offered for warranty labor. From the lists I've seen for the QDUAL, it can't be much.

[Mike19]

I'm afraid to ask you what Mani offered for warranty labor. From the lists I've seen for the QDUAL, it can't be much.

I just went over, it took me 5, they said 2 - 4 1/2. I was lucky, the machine was accessable from three sides, it could have been worse and taken longer. I closed the two shutoff valves so I only had to recover the charge in the head.