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    Quote Originally Posted by ADillon View Post
    Thanks and I completely where you are coming from as well. I appreciate your ability to have a civil discussion. Naz Drovia!
    Would you two like some privacy? Oh! I forgot that this sort of thing is now being displayed publicly....
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Let it go perfect. HD sucks in my opinion. Thank you, thank you very much
    You got it all wrong, Glenn. HD doesn't suck, they just support that sort of thing.
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    My question is how can you be pro-life and be against healthcare for all?

    Let's just save the babies...then not give them decent health coverage when they are older....GREAT PLAN.
    How does not supporting the killing of life have anything to do with a socialist program? Are you suggesting that prior to socialist healthcare agendas that the world was wrong minded? How in the world do you think we got this far with socialized healthcare being so relatively new in the way it is being mishandled?

    Also, with all socialized healthcare programs worldwide having so many problems and costing so much money, how can you suggest that it is something we should want? Who wants socialized health care? Those who either don't want to pay for it or those who are making money from it or those who are too naive to not understand that nothing that government gets involved in is ever going to run properly or avoid becoming corrupt.

    Modern mankind has survived for thousands of years without socialized healthcare in the way that government's are running it, but now it is an absolute must for our survival to some....WHY?
    Government is a disease...
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    So you are saying, let's just kill the babies in the most heinous ways we can, and let's call that healthcare?! Very good! Typical selfish plan of hate. After all, it wouldn't be you that is torn to pieces. You've got admire the hatred and callousness of people like that.

    Good student! I'll give you a "GAY" for that!

    Who is against healthcare again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Would you two like some privacy? Oh! I forgot that this sort of thing is now being displayed publicly....
    TEE HEE !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpit View Post
    So you are saying, let's just kill the babies in the most heinous ways we can, and let's call that healthcare?! Very good! Typical selfish plan of hate. After all, it wouldn't be you that is torn to pieces. You've got admire the hatred and callousness of people like that.

    Good student! I'll give you a "GAY" for that!

    Who is against healthcare again?
    Did I ever say that I was for abortion? No...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Did I ever say that I was for abortion? No...
    Are you for abortion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    How does not supporting the killing of life have anything to do with a socialist program? Are you suggesting that prior to socialist healthcare agendas that the world was wrong minded? How in the world do you think we got this far with socialized healthcare being so relatively new in the way it is being mishandled?

    Also, with all socialized healthcare programs worldwide having so many problems and costing so much money, how can you suggest that it is something we should want? Who wants socialized health care? Those who either don't want to pay for it or those who are making money from it or those who are too naive to not understand that nothing that government gets involved in is ever going to run properly or avoid becoming corrupt.

    Modern mankind has survived for thousands of years without socialized healthcare in the way that government's are running it, but now it is an absolute must for our survival to some....WHY?
    Ah...now I get it....you are Pro life...but Pro unhealthy life.

    Man Has survived without healthcare for all...but mankind has also survived without:

    clean drinking water
    cooked food
    the printing press
    electricity
    automobiles
    air conditioning
    clothing

    I could go on and on about the things that man has survived without but has...should we get rid of all of them simply because we do not need them? Do any of these things make our lives better? Do any of these things keep us more healthy? Is healthcare for all something that could keep us more healthy? Since healthcare for all and some of the things like clean drinking water are both things that keep us healthier and we are not utilizing healthcare for all...should we get rid of clean drinking water as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironpit View Post
    Are you for abortion?
    I do not agree with abortion....except for when in extreme circumstances...baby won't make it anyway but will kill the mother type of situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Ah...now I get it....you are Pro life...but Pro unhealthy life.

    Man Has survived without healthcare for all...but mankind has also survived without:

    clean drinking water
    cooked food
    the printing press
    electricity
    automobiles
    air conditioning
    clothing

    I could go on and on about the things that man has survived without but has...should we get rid of all of them simply because we do not need them? Do any of these things make our lives better? Do any of these things keep us more healthy? Is healthcare for all something that could keep us more healthy? Since healthcare for all and some of the things like clean drinking water are both things that keep us healthier and we are not utilizing healthcare for all...should we get rid of clean drinking water as well?
    Ah....NO! As usual, you don't get it at all. Not being able to bear children, I don't feel I have much right to being pro life or pro abortion. Seeing that I don't have a whole lot of respect for our physical lives in the larger realm of our spiritual existance, it don't much matter to me.

    What I do believe is that we were Created by a Supreme intelligence that has given us the ability to freely choose for ourselves how we prefer to live and that when government takes away our God given rights of free choice without there being a social law broken, government is pretending to take the place of God. That!!!!....I will fight against because I believe it is against the will of creation.
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Ah....NO! As usual, you don't get it at all. Not being able to bear children, I don't feel I have much right to being pro life or pro abortion. Seeing that I don't have a whole lot of respect for our physical lives in the larger realm of our spiritual existance, it don't much matter to me.

    What I do believe is that we were Created by a Supreme intelligence that has given us the ability to freely choose for ourselves how we prefer to live and that when government takes away our God given rights of free choice without there being a social law broken, government is pretending to take the place of God. That!!!!....I will fight against because I believe it is against the will of creation.
    I completely understand...

    So you believe that there is a God...who created us all. This God also gave us the ability to choose how we prefer to live....but what of those that God left behind? What of those that God did not give the ability to choose? Is it a survival of the fittest game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    I do not agree with abortion....except for when in extreme circumstances...baby won't make it anyway but will kill the mother type of situation.
    Your answer seems a little less than concrete. The extreme circumstances seems to be a door left open, although the mothers life thing closes that one particular door.

    I pay for those things you list. The gov doesn't give them to me. I am not forced by threat of penalty to buy them.

    I am not against healthcare for all.

    I do NOT like what we have.

    The healthcare thing is smoke and mirrors. It is not the big picture.

    The globalist are looking for a one world system. The healthcare thing is just another cog in the wheel.

    David Jeremiah has a very good line on what is really going on.

    I saw a clip on the dead socialist walter cronkite. He was at a meeting of globalists and he was mocking christians for believing in the coming one world leader. Yet that was the very thing they were assembled for! To discuss ways to bring it about!

    There is a very real movement by the wealthy of this world to create a one world government, under one leader.

    There will be a world religious leader and he will lead all people to worship the political leader as god.

    It is written in the BOOK of the Revelation OF Yeshua. ( His name wasn't really Jesus. He wasn't english)

    The thing that amazes me is that people won't believe it, yet it is happening right in front of us.

    The healthcare thing is important, but it really isn't the issue. It is a distraction.
    David Jeremiah really has a good lead on this .

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    I completely understand...

    So you believe that there is a God...who created us all. This God also gave us the ability to choose how we prefer to live....but what of those that God left behind? What of those that God did not give the ability to choose? Is it a survival of the fittest game?
    You continue to be obtuse to what I am stating. God does not leave anyone behind. Children die within moments of being born. The spiritual nature of such a child is the same as the spiritual nature of any adult, it just had a very short mortal lifespan. We are spiritual beings on a very temporary mortal journey. For some, the mortal journey is extremely short. That has no bearing on the spiritual being.
    Government is a disease...
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    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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