Originally Posted by corny
He will know it. Obamacare hasn't even begun yet.
Governments don't tax to get the money they need, governments will always find a need for the money they get. Ronald Wilson Reagon
Born Again KA
Exactly and no one really knows. The liberals will tell you it was the right thing to do and that it will create jobs.
Originally Posted by whec720
It has had the opposite effect. Its had a huge effect on the level of confidence in our economy.
You take that away and this economy will do what its been doing for the last 3 years. Shrinking.
Funny corny I wonder what your boss would say if he was a businessman in Cuba a few months after Castor took over. He said he wasn't a commie and then he lowered the boom and declared that he has been a communist all his life. Yeah you are in fantasy land, dream on there corny.
Originally Posted by corny
Glad you are such a believer in socialism. I hope your rose colored glasses don't get broke. Thank you, thank you very much
"I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
Sen. Barry Goldwater
Originally Posted by corny
Good for him but it's foolish to arbitrarily dive into expansion with out testing the economic waters of the current administration.
Its why only 80k people found jobs last month and 1/3 of those were temp jobs.
Companies hire people to give them some educated guess as to which way our economy is heading.
Some time they have entire divisions of people hired to do that. But hey, maybe your boss knows something they dont.
And whats with your fixation of George Zimmerman ?
Not everyone just gives up when faced with an obstacle.
While I will agree that americans for the most part lack ambition and the will or drive to succeed..........there are still some individuals in this country who move forward no matter what is thrown down in their path.
What are your guys plans for giving up ???
Gonna try and get disability ??? Turn to a life of crime ??? Just let someone else support your ???
When the going gets tough the tough get going..... that used to be true of america but now it seems that when the going gets tough people just give up and go hide in the basement curled up into the fetal position like george zimmerman has done.
Oh no...Obamacare...... he is going to gut my business because I dont know how to grow my business when faced with obstacles..... Im going to have to close down because if I dont actually know how to grow my business.
Im reminded of an incident at walmart a while back. Im standing in line with all those inbred freaks and I hear some guy start screaming.. Looking over a couple of aisles I see this guy smacking the dog snot out of the credit card thingy and yelling at the old woman working the cash register.
I grabbed a can of something.....beans or something...and went over to investigate.
The canned goods was to use as a weapon in case this guy went off on me and I was forced to beat him to death.
I get over there and ask him just what the F his problem is..... he starts screaming at me and cussing the cashier.....and then I hear "Obama"......
Old decrepit security guard comes over and this freak starts cussing him too.......
I get with the cashier and ask what happened........ Evidently the credit card thing wouldnt take his card......and his check wouldnt clear.
Then he starts yammering at me that its Obamas fault..... cause this guy lost his job and couldnt find a new one.....and his unemployment wasnt enough to keep him from draining his bank account....
I asked him how it was Obamas fault....... he started going off that his company closed down....costing him his job......and he couldnt find a new job in the area because he was something.....some sort of machine operator......and he had no other skills.
I pointed out that he should simply go get another job........ he then started screaming at me about not being able to find work he was skilled at. I mentioned walmart, mcdonalds etc..... and he fired back that he was above that kind of work and that his unemployment paid more.
I asked him how long he had been out of work and he said 2 years..... I then asked if he had taken any classes in order to learn some new skills...... his reply was no......and more cussing.....
I then pointed out that his former employer failed because his former employer was a bad businessman and didnt know how to run a business when faced with obastacles....
I also pointed out how lazy he was to sit at home and let his bank account be drained because he was too good to work retail or fast food and too lazy to seek training in a new field...
He then got in face screaming and I held up my canned goods and explained that I was going to kill him if he didnt get out of my face by bashing his head in with the can of beans or whatever.
He then said something to the security guard about me threatening him and I told the security guard that I would only kill him in self defense....but that if I was forced to defend myself that I was going to kill him and not merely injure him.
I then looked in his shopping bags on the carousel...... Steak, some seafood...... some expensive precooked items..... bottled water in the bottom of his shopping cart......sodas.... some prepackaged salads.....
I then began to lecture him on how he shouldnt be buying steak and seafood and all these prepared foods that are expensive and should stick with things like beans and cornmeal and stuff that provide good nutrition at a lower cost.
He then began his Obama isnt going tell him what to eat......and more about Obama ruining his life.......
I stopped him again and explained to him how rough I have had it over the years....how Ive never let the economy get me down......how in rough times we spend less and make due with less and that Obama or anyone else only controls you if you are weak minded and lazy enough to let them.....
By that time the police were there....... I dropped my great value canned good into one of his bags and backed off.....
Im sort of glad the police showed up when they did because I looked over and saw that people had shoved my cart in my line out of the way and that I would now lose my spot in line........ I was ready to kill him and was trying to think of what I could say that would get this wuss to physically come at me...... While I was dead set on killing him for making me miss my spot in line......I still wanted it to be in self defense.
Black lady cop.......which was good for me cause he started screaming at her that I was one of obamas minions..... luckily she just laughed at that.....and others in the line who witnessed me take this mental midget to school all spoke up and said that I was only trying to calm him down.
When I left to return to my line this guy was curled up into the fetal position on the floor crying.
But you see...... this guy lost his job because his employer simply gave up.......and then this guy...instead of getting up off his butt and finding work...simply gave up......
HE drained his bank account.....HE destroyed his credit.......HE is the only one responsible for his downfall........
Not Obamas fault........ Obama may wreck the economy but the strong will survive.....
My employers business grow each year no matter what......new contracts, new employees......new equipment.
Originally Posted by Six
Im sure we will weather whatever Obama throws out there.... we have for the last 4 years.......for the last 20 years......
Some people just seem to know how to succeed in business....even when faced with obstacles.
Zimmerman....... he is a coward who couldnt stand up and fight like a man so he pulled a gun and killed someone who didnt deserve to die.....
Bit off more than he could chew and instead of facing the consequences of his actions.....he just pulled a trigger.....
To Glenn...... how can you look at my posts in this thread and call me a socialist or commie........ Im all about working for what you get.......
Ive worked my ass off for what little I have and I am 100 percent against people getting handouts like welfare food stamps and disability unless they truly need the help..... and its my belief that most of the people getting these benefits dont really need them and surely dont deserve them.
Liberals are the ones that give up and suck off the community troff. Lazy parasitic leaches the attach themselves to a working host.....a cancer really to the individual and society as a whole.
Now the freaks are on television, the freaks are in the movies. And its no longer the sideshow, its the whole show. The colorful circus and the clowns and the elephants, for all intents and purposes, are gone, and were dealing only with the freaks. - Jonathan Winters
If everyone ever forgets that the right wing motivates everyone by using fear and using that fear to brand a scapegoat this country is lost. All the rugged individuals will be holed up somewhere waiting for their "leaders" to forestall armageddon. The rest of us will go on with life and make the best of it.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Fascinating! If you ever wrote a novel, I would read it.
Originally Posted by corny