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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Contra...........Oh I Forget, darn!
    Thats the best you can do ? And in the face of your AG lying to congress over assault rifles sent to Mexican drug gangs ?

    Your President stepping in to block a congressional investigation ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cool-in-cayman View Post
    I grew up with Ronald Reagan. I didn't understand politics at that time because I was just a kid but I remembering him coming on TV and feeling like he was my grandpa or something.

    Now when I watch clips of Reagan I realize what a great leader he was. His speeches from the 60's still resinate with todays issues. He was called an amiable dunce by democrats and journalists at the time. They could not have been more wrong about him. He wrote his own speeches which read like poems to our country. I always felt like he was on our side (the USA). He was always optimistic when he spoke of the nation. "The shining city on the hill". He understood that freedom isn't free and that it must be defended. He understood that the u.s.a is a beacon for those who desire freedom and if we fail to maintain it there really is no other country on earth to defend it.."thousand years of darkness".

    As as result of his tax cuts, revenues to the goverment doubled. This flies in the face of liberal keysnian economic theory and liberals know it.

    I love that guy.

    You do know that his profession was acting


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    Quote Originally Posted by Six View Post
    Thats the best you can do ? And in the face of your AG lying to congress over assault rifles sent to Mexican drug gangs ?

    Your President stepping in to block a congressional investigation ?
    I can't speak for others but every US president since about the mid 50's has been MY president. I personally don't think Ronzo was good for the country but according to the Constitution he was still MY president, flaws and all, anything else would be disregarding the law and might be considered treasonous.
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    Wow. Now Obama supporters want people who speak out against their President jailed on treason.

    Why dont you guys jist admit you want a totalitarian government ?

    I say your president because I didnt vote for him and therefore I am not responsible for his massive destruction.

    Have you checked the latest economic indicators ?

    They're dreadful and getting worse.

    You guys did that. You guys own the destruction that he's causing

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    Economics has nothing to do with a citizens patriotism. Differences of opinion are acceptable under our Constitution although limits can be imposed such as in the last administration when they setup "protest zones" I haven't seen the current administration set up zones for protest so that dictator thing just seems like more rw blather.

    I see you are still looking for a scapegoat, when you realize it all started with Ronney you will have the answers you seek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Six View Post
    When faced with poor examples to the Nations Highest Office like Bill Clinton who treated the White House like Hugh Heffners Mansion and Barack Obama who secretly wants to rip it down and salt the earth it was built on we Americans who value liberty and the Constitution have to look to history for a President who truly exemplified integrity and treated the highest office with the respect and dignity it deserves.

    Reagan came into office after the malaise of Carter who's liberal ideology and general ineptness caused an economic nightmare where inflation was 12%, unemployment 11%, and interest rates were 21 %. ( sound familiar ? )

    Add to that the gas crisis and the Iranian hostage crisis and he had his work cut out for him as he righted the wrongs of a incompetent liberal ideologue.

    Some of his accomplishments were as follows but not necessarily in order.

    1) Deregulated the Airline Industry and broke the Airtrafic Controllers Union.
    ( They wanted a 32 hour work week )

    2) He through talks with Michael Gorbachev helped to bring down the Berlin Wall

    3) Through defense programs like "Star Wars" he outspent the USSR which eventually led to their break up

    4) Got the Iranian Hostages released

    5) Signed the economic recovery act which dropped marginal tax rates by 23%
    Tax cuts were the centerpiece to his plan of getting the Nation out of the Carter economy. Even President Clintons economic team admitted....
    " It is undeniable that the sharp reduction in taxes in the early 1980s was a strong impetus to economic growth."

    According to the US Treasury statistics the 1982 tax act increased tax revenues by 130 billion in the next four years.

    According to the IRS the TOP 1% of income earners paid 18% of all income taxes but by 1988 they paid 28 % of all income taxes. That's with a DROP OF TOP MARGINAL RATES FROM 70 % TO 30 %. You listening libbies ??

    Even Bill Clinton reduced Capital Gains tax's knowing Reagans example couldn't be argued with. It was the drop in taxs that fueled the 90's boom that Clinton gets so much credit for.

    The total share of the top 10% of income earners increased from 48% in 1981 to 58 % in 1988 with top rates reduced.

    TOTAL individual tax revenues ROSE from 244 billion in 1980 to 446 billion in 1990

    The 1984 Deficit Reduction Act increased revenues by another 70 billion in the four years following.

    The lowering of Capital Gains Tax's increased Capital gains revenue by hundreds of billions and the overall effect was to jump start a failing economy built on the idiotic principles being implemented today.

    Unemployment dropped from a double digit 12% to 5.4% in 1988

    Inflation dropped from 10% to 4% in 1988 ( by the way lefties we currently have double digit unemployment AND double digit inflation now under your messiah Obama.)

    GDP wen't from -0.03 in 1980 to4.1% in 1988.

    Total federal tax receipts grew from 618 billion to 991 billion. A 53% increase

    6) He made people proud to be Americans again and improved Americas standing in the world as a super power.


    So there is no wonder his example is set upon by Conservatives as the quintessential Presidential figure and Liberals who oppose any thing that improves life in a free society.
    Common practice is to give credit to the source from which you copied, in this case being the Wiki article "Reaganomics."

    Cherry-picking, a method you lavishly practiced here, is the height of intellectual dishonesty as well as a weak form of supporting one's views.

    Because you only presented edited bits of the article (cherry-picking), one could get the impression that you were hiding or suppressing data contrary to your views thus leading to a loss of personal credibility.


    I offer these comments as helpful advice.


    Oh well, on the bright side, it makes a change from your constant Limbaugh channelling.
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    GEEAR

    I posted facts that shows without a doubt the relation ship between lowering taxes abd increasing revenue.

    Also some of his other success. You posted nonsensical drivel....as ususual.

    Still waiting for you to post all of Obamas accomplishments so I can shoot them down.

    Reagan turned the malaise of Carter around. Most of my sources were from the IRS and the Treasury.

    Are you telling me my facts are wrong ?

    Then prove it. Your talking points are tired and unintelligent.

    Anyway why dont you two talk about the latest economic numbers ?

    The complete ineptness of your President.

    Xou have NOTHING as usual exept your typical toxic warmed over liberal phlegm carried over from some whack job websight

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Economics has nothing to do with a citizens patriotism. Differences of opinion are acceptable under our Constitution although limits can be imposed such as in the last administration when they setup "protest zones" I haven't seen the current administration set up zones for protest so that dictator thing just seems like more rw blather.

    I see you are still looking for a scapegoat, when you realize it all started with Ronney you will have the answers you seek.
    You're telling me this disastrous economy is Romneys fault?

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    Try to keep up - I thought we were talking about Saint Ronnie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Six View Post
    GEEAR

    I posted facts that shows without a doubt the relation ship between lowering taxes abd increasing revenue.

    Are you telling me my facts are wrong ?
    I'm telling you that you cherry-picked economic stats and ignored others.


    I would also say that earlier in this thread you declared that wiki was not a legitimate, objective source. Do we infer from this that since you used wiki for your own post, that the information in your post is not legitimate and not objective?
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    Geery if you have issues with my facts then submit a legitimate rebutal.

    Anything else is just a pathetic attempt at relevance by you and people like you.

    You dig yourself into a a deeper hole everytime you post your leftist jibberish.

    So again are they lies our are they true and feel free to post any of the accoplishments of our current President.

    Post how his plans on raising taxs on the middle class and small bussiness is going to raise revenue ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Try to keep up - I thought we were talking about Saint Ronnie.
    Its my thread so I'm aware of the subject matter.

    It's brilliant isn't it. I wantto share his accomplishments with those who might be toi young to realize what he did as a leader.

    I also kbew it would bait the leftist and they would offer up ridiculous counterpoints and sweeping generalizations as a rebutal.

    fish in a bucket you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlsInMT View Post
    Not the greatest, but not the worst. Current occupant of that position (don't feel she is in the same class as Mrs. Reagan) "let's move" isn't any better.
    The frying pan with the eggs is probably the best.

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