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    3D Floorplan Graphics

    Who do you use for your 3d floorplan graphics? I am sort of frustrated with who I have been using and looking for other options.

    Thanks!

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    3d Studio Max, Maya, Rhino 3d, Blender and Google Sketch are all programs that can be easily used to do floor plans.

    I prefer Maya or 3ds Max because they work flawlessly with .dwg's and basically about any type of reference file type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ControlY0urMind View Post
    3d Studio Max, Maya, Rhino 3d, Blender and Google Sketch are all programs that can be easily used to do floor plans.

    I prefer Maya or 3ds Max because they work flawlessly with .dwg's and basically about any type of reference file type.
    Sorry, I read the post wrong. Thought you asked "What do you use for your 3d floor plan graphics".

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    Try them yourself using Blender. There is a little learning curve but the software is free. The thing that I like about Blender is that you can use any image file and with some plug-ins you can also use cad files.
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    the thing about 3ds Max is that it takes a pretty good computer to run it. my computer always crashes while in the middle of a floor plan.


    Im like a mushroom, they keep me in the dark and feed me crap.

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    3D Floorplans...

    Google Sketchup has tremendous support and provides a full library of files that can easily be modified to meet your needs for floorplans. Once you download the program, you will have full access to the users library and support from other users. Of course, once you have learned from others, you will want to pay it forward in order to help others.

    The advantages of freeware...

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    +1 for google sketchup.


    Cool stuff and not too hard to learn. You tube is full of demonstrations.

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    I haven't d/l any of the software yet. Will this allow you to take a picture of say a chiller and then import it and make it into a graphic? Kinda like what I attached? We had a RTU that a company did for us. when we sent the picture you could see foot prints on the white roof. When they sent the graphic back to us, there were the foot prints lol.

    The attachment is chiller we have at one of our sites. We made the pic sent it to someone (I have no idea who or where, it was before my time here) and they sent this back. Will the software mentioned here do this?
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    To answer OP. We have used BAS Graphics (Alper and the gang), ControlGraphics and 1 or 2 local people. Both of the above have done a good to great job for us. The locals not so great.

    The biggest Issue is YOU have to know what you want ! Things like color sets, what kind of extensions, etc. Do you want windows in your exterior walls, elevator shafts, entry doors, passage doors, duct runs displayed in relative sizes, different objects for VAV's and Fan Powered VAV's and so on.

    Unless you have capability to re-size the *.jpg or *.png files you also need to tell your Graphics developer what the final size and resolution should be.

    Over all I prefer ControlGraphics because I have been working with some of the indviduals for over 10 years. We have always gotten fast turn around on any thing we needed fixed.

    Crap, I almost sound like a commercial for them! Sorry. JMO
    If sense were so common everyone would have it !

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    Quote Originally Posted by sycontrol View Post
    I haven't d/l any of the software yet. Will this allow you to take a picture of say a chiller and then import it and make it into a graphic? Kinda like what I attached? We had a RTU that a company did for us. when we sent the picture you could see foot prints on the white roof. When they sent the graphic back to us, there were the foot prints lol.

    The attachment is chiller we have at one of our sites. We made the pic sent it to someone (I have no idea who or where, it was before my time here) and they sent this back. Will the software mentioned here do this?
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    I had a company create this attached image of an Air Cooled Chiller, and they used 3D Studio Max. They were able to match the angles of my pumps so it fit nice.
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    I've had customers that didn't even care if the data on the screen was accurate. As long as it looked amazing and they could show it off, they could care less.

    Of course, any good controls guy would rather see a points list with live data any day over pretty pictures.

    I prefer raw data when I'm troubleshooting, but graphics are actually what got me into controls in the first place, so of course that's one of my main strengths.

    9 times out of 10, the customer is not controls savvy and if they don't have an exact representation, they are completely lost. (At least that's been my experience.)

    90% of my projects I do custom graphics specific to whats really on site. When your proficient at it, and can get it done without impacting your bottom line, it's worth it. I've gotten lots of compliments from my customers, and they really enjoy the interface I provide them with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBladeJN View Post
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    I had a company create this attached image of an Air Cooled Chiller, and they used 3D Studio Max. They were able to match the angles of my pumps so it fit nice.
    Sure, it LOOKS nice, but that angle, and having everything obscured, makes it completely useless. You end up having to put all the relevant data in spaces around the image, making it do nothing but take up space. This, while not as flashy, would be much easier to make, operate, use, and troubleshoot. More detailed information for a given component (like all operating data for a pump's VFD) can be done in pop-ups by clicking the pump icon itself.

    I made this up as a mock-up in inkscape, but it shows pretty much everything you need to know, in likely less screen space than the pre-rendered graphics that can't really convey any information. An entire plant could be represented on one large screen with simplified graphics like this, and still not be overwhelmingly cluttered. (perfect for wall-mounted big-screen type status board displays).

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    Very True about the wasted space.

    Quote Originally Posted by CraziFuzzy View Post
    Sure, it LOOKS nice, but that angle, and having everything obscured, makes it completely useless. You end up having to put all the relevant data in spaces around the image, making it do nothing but take up space. This, while not as flashy, would be much easier to make, operate, use, and troubleshoot. More detailed information for a given component (like all operating data for a pump's VFD) can be done in pop-ups by clicking the pump icon itself.

    I made this up as a mock-up in inkscape, but it shows pretty much everything you need to know, in likely less screen space than the pre-rendered graphics that can't really convey any information. An entire plant could be represented on one large screen with simplified graphics like this, and still not be overwhelmingly cluttered. (perfect for wall-mounted big-screen type status board displays).
    One of my customers also mentioned the angles, so I went back to the drawing board and created a more simple version.
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