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  1. #66
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    This past three years has me wondering if American's actually have any real say over what those in government do at all. I am beginning to wonder if we have not allowed government to become so all powerful that those who are part of government just shift power back and forth between one another while doing as little as possible to appease the Americans who are paying for it all.

    The only way to get government back to being controllable is to force government to decrease in size. I'm not opposed to firing squads or grape Kool Aid.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    So you people are telling me that by reading and following the constitution that I'm a commie? What in the heck did they put in the baby boomers kool-aid?

    Not to mention all of you are complaining about the government...but it was the majority of you older guys that sat by and did nothing while the government grew to be such an "uncontrollable" force and all you can do is complain on a hvac forum? Talk about whiners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    So you people are telling me that by reading and following the constitution that I'm a commie? What in the heck did they put in the baby boomers kool-aid?..........................
    Well you know the old saying if the shoe fits wear it. thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Well you know the old saying if the shoe fits wear it. thank you, thank you very much
    Alright MR. I had to take a time out from ARP because I was a bad boy....tell me...what part of following the constitution makes me a commie?

    I would really like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post

    I still don't see a problem with making everyone pay for healthcare...I don't want health insurance...trust me I don't...but if I buy it then my neighbor won't be paying for my next emergency.

    One issue, among many, is that EVERYONE is not paying and EVERYONE will never pay!

    The "tax" for those that do not buy will either not be enough to cover their share or will not be paid due to lack of income.

    This is just another redistribution of other people's money. Why work when someone else will provide everything for me- food, healthcare, housing, cell phone, car, childcare, etc?
    The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and stamps EVER.
    Meanwhile, the National Park Service, administered by the U.S. Department of the Interior, asks us to "Please Do Not Feed the Animals". Their stated reason for this policy "... the animals become dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves."
    from an excerpt by Paul Jacob in Sun City, AZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacnw View Post
    One issue, among many, is that EVERYONE is not paying and EVERYONE will never pay!

    The "tax" for those that do not buy will either not be enough to cover their share or will not be paid due to lack of income.

    This is just another redistribution of other people's money. Why work when someone else will provide everything for me- food, healthcare, housing, cell phone, car, childcare, etc?
    So based upon your comments you think that all employers, should pay all their workers enough to cover all life time costs, basically a "very very" high minimum wage?

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    What's funny is that Americans are arrogant enough to think that they know something the rest of the developed world doesn't on the healthcare issue. America leads the world with the highest per capita dollar amounts spent on healthcare, a third world infant mortality rate, and the most healthcare related bankruptcies. Most of the people opposed to a universal single payer healthcare system for the tax-paying citizens seem to think they're immune to getting hosed by the healthcare industry.
    "There is no greater inequality than the equal treatment of unequals."

    -Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Hey ace the commie loving Dems filibustered and stalled to keep him from appointing an "American" to the Supreme Court. All the Democrats want in there is leftests who will sell America out and that is what they got. Thank you very much
    Glenn, you are always carrying on about true Americans, but I think the kind of person you are referring to is actually a 'Murican, not a true American. The two are different.

    "There is no greater inequality than the equal treatment of unequals."

    -Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Alright MR. I had to take a time out from ARP because I was a bad boy....tell me...what part of following the constitution makes me a commie?

    I would really like to know.
    Funny student, never said you were a commie but your positions by your own words make you sound like one. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that. You believe in an almighty Federal government.

    When I asked you why you became such believer in socialism you said that you are not aligned with the left.. I then asked you how you agreed with the conservative side since you are on the left's side on Obama care. You said that a "conservative ideal" you believe in is that "everyone should work..one way or the other". You are calling that a "right wing ideal".

    That my friend is right in line with the main communist principle "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs) is a slogan popularised by Karl Marx". That is your claim to be a "moderate", you have to be kidding aren't you. Obama care is in line with confiscating you money and with making everyone work someway or the other makes it a communist ideal.

    You got that down good. From your post here you appear to be batting a 100 for the Marxist side here IMHO. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    Glenn, you are always carrying on about true Americans, but I think the kind of person you are referring to is actually a 'Murican, not a true American. The two are different.

    Never learned English did you? Thank you, thank you very much
    Last edited by glennac; 06-30-2012 at 09:17 AM.
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Never learned English did you? Thank you, thank you very much
    "There is no greater inequality than the equal treatment of unequals."

    -Thomas Jefferson

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    Glen, you know so much about Marx and Lenin that it got me thinking of a couple of saying that apply.

    You ready? Here they are

    "It takes one to know one"

    and


    "Birds of a feather flock together"

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    Quote Originally Posted by acmanko View Post
    Glen, you know so much about Marx and Lenin that it got me thinking of a couple of saying that apply.

    You ready? Here they are

    "It takes one to know one"

    and


    "Birds of a feather flock together"
    Funny ace I learned how to read back in grammar school and I have exercised that ever since. If you don't understand your enemies then how can you fight them.

    That post is lame ace even from your standards. Wake up and get some coffee in you and come back when you are at least somewhat functional. Good luck. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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