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  1. #27
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    I've yet to have an employee bring me a "worn out" tool for replacement. Now, broken tools....that's a different story.

    They lose them, before they're worn out....or I find them worn out/rusted out when I clean out their trucks after termination, or while on vacation.

    If you lose a tool.....no...."Daddy John" ain't gonna buy you a new one.

    Bring me a legitimately worn out tool, and I'll replace it....but it doesn't happen.

    For you guys who expect employers to provide everything.....do you have any friends who are auto mechanics ? Ask them about tools to do their jobs.....
    Technical incompetence is NOT a sales tool....

  2. #28
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    Company supplies all PPE, including ladders wich according to OSHA are fall arrest systems. Company also provides nitro regulator (wich I thought was odd), scale and recovery machine for all techs. There are specialty tools available for sign out as needed.

    All gauges,torches, hand tools, meters, etc are the responsibility of the tech and must be purchased in 30 days. Payroll deduct is available for $50 a week to help with higher priced tools.

    Company provides $200 a year for broken tools only. The broken tool must be turned in.

    Non union company

    Company started providing co2 monitors for all techs this year and keeps them calibrated. Pretty sweet machine actually, comes with a wireless printer and is mandatory for all heat starts and fall checks.
    Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2

  3. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Markl View Post
    I've yet to have an employee bring me a "worn out" tool for replacement. Now, broken tools....that's a different story.

    They lose them, before they're worn out....or I find them worn out/rusted out when I clean out their trucks after termination, or while on vacation.

    If you lose a tool.....no...."Daddy John" ain't gonna buy you a new one.

    Bring me a legitimately worn out tool, and I'll replace it....but it doesn't happen.

    For you guys who expect employers to provide everything.....do you have any friends who are auto mechanics ? Ask them about tools to do their jobs.....
    I agree, I don't think I've ever seen a worn out tool.

    i've probably replaced tens of thousands of dollars in lost tools too. 5 page invoice from supplier with two tools buried in it on a regular basis. Invoice get's paid with tools overlooked or forgotten, tech gets free tools. And of course when they don't see it come out of their check, they ain't gonna say anything. Never once did anyone ever come to me and say, i bought a tool last month and it never came out of my check, can you make sure I get charged for it.

    "where's" the vacuum pump that was on truck 25"? I don't know I switched trucks when it broke down, when I got it back the vacuum pump was gone. I need one for my job today. "ok stop and get one"...

    I've bought tools for guys who have had their tools stolen too. Funny how some people manage to get their tools stolen so many times.

    I'm done with that. I'll pay upfront for the tools and then I don't want to hear about them anymore, not my problem.

  4. #30
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    Do not use (or quote) slurs like the one deleted in posts here.

  5. #31
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    what is normal charge to customer for

    recovery unit
    vac pump
    leak detector (electronic)
    ??

    For example you leave your vac pump on the system overnight.

  6. #32
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    most companies i worked at supplied truck, ladders, vacuum pump , and recovery machine (only because it's required by law to have recovery in a HVAC truck)

    these days they don't want to supply that anymore.

    Sears gave us a carbon monoxide tester, which was nice, but the rest of their tools i didn't even use

  7. #33
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    I have all my own tools I like it that way I even have my own recovery tank Haha I don't have to worry for extra side work owner saying anything bout using his tools ya know

  8. #34
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    I work for a small family owned business. They supply ladders, torches, vacuum pumps, leak detector, carbon monoxide detector, scales. Said they would also supply hand tools when I started, but I've since bought my own, which i think i prefer. Along with meter, gauges, and power tools. They recently bought me a set of digital gauges that was a nice surprise. But have the stipulation you break them you buy them cause the gauges are rather spendy. They will also loan me money to buy whatever i need.

  9. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Markl View Post
    I've yet to have an employee bring me a "worn out" tool for replacement. Now, broken tools....that's a different story.

    They lose them, before they're worn out....or I find them worn out/rusted out when I clean out their trucks after termination, or while on vacation.

    If you lose a tool.....no...."Daddy John" ain't gonna buy you a new one.

    Bring me a legitimately worn out tool, and I'll replace it....but it doesn't happen.

    For you guys who expect employers to provide everything.....do you have any friends who are auto mechanics ? Ask them about tools to do their jobs.....

    drills, gauges, multimeters can easily be worn out/become defective, small hand tools get lost I agree but those aren't that one that hurt the pocket book.

  10. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmech View Post
    drills, gauges, multimeters can easily be worn out/become defective, small hand tools get lost I agree but those aren't that one that hurt the pocket book.
    Very rarely, if they're treated with the same respect that employees expect from their employers....Stuff like that lasts me a decade or better.
    Technical incompetence is NOT a sales tool....

  11. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Markl View Post
    Very rarely, if they're treated with the same respect that employees expect from their employers....Stuff like that lasts me a decade or better.
    I treat my tools as I'm treated.


    I'm worked hard and I expect my tools to keep up. When they do not or can not, they are JUNK and need to be replaced.

    I get little mercy from an employer in terms of working conditions, so why wouldn't my tools be expected to keep up?

  12. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmech View Post
    drills, gauges, multimeters can easily be worn out/become defective, small hand tools get lost I agree but those aren't that one that hurt the pocket book.
    I still use my Fluke 87 that Ive had for 20 years every day. Also a Fluke 321 Clamp Meter and an old " Transmation " for signal generation. 4 to 20 out or 0 to 10 dc.

    That thing looks as old as I am.

    Drills yea. The batteries will wear out. Guages definitely and now a lot faster with 410A as the 410A. rated houses will "blister " on a hot day.

  13. #39
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    with the exception of ladders there is not one single company tool on my truck and thats how I like it. These are MY tools that I bought to work in my chosen profession. Ive had my boss repair tools over the years and Ive financed them thru the company but I like knowing the tools on my truck will work and be properly maintained. I did have a company ext. ladder stolen once because I didnt lock it to the rack. I got chewed out so bad It still hurts to sit on cold days. Cool in cayman FWIW I have reminded the office to charge me for tools. A pair of channel locks or something aren't worth losing your job

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