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  1. #40
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    Want to know what Copeland says???

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    Originally posted by sun57
    Thanks to all who have responded. Based some of the comments in this dicussion, I would think I should be able to get the Goodman CDC14 (R-22) unit for less than the Trane XL14i (Puron). But the Goodman contractor is charging a little more. Both are reputable HVAC contractors. The Goodman contractor is skeptical about Puron systems. He feels that Puron has not been tested over the long term, and he is concerned about the increased pressure. Since I can get the Trane XL14i (with Puron) for less, from a reputable contractor, I plan to go with the Trane.
    I'd get a couple more bids, and/or check the details of whats included in each bid.

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    Originally posted by BaldLoonie
    Originally posted by RoBoTeq
    Not only are you wrong, but Copeland claims that there is a less percentage of compressors returned to them by Goodman then by any other company.

    Nodyne sez the same thing [/B][/QUOTE]

    No fair! I said it first

    I didn't think Nordyne units used Copeland. I heard they use "Cocaland", a compressor made in South American countries trying to recover from the cocaine industry raids. HEY....It's just something I heard
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    Originally posted by RoBoTeq


    I didn't think Nordyne units used Copeland. I heard they use "Cocaland", a compressor made in South American countries trying to recover from the cocaine industry raids. HEY....It's just something I heard
    Don't give them any ideas I will be upset next time I sell a Gibson and I fire it up and the compressor is full of cocaine, now if I am in crack town well it might turn out to be a good day.
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    Sun57, I believe that Goodman unit would be a GSC14, which is a premium condensing unit with a Copeland scroll compressor and other nice features.

    Do you know what indoor unit model numbers are being quoted? If the indoor unit for the GSC14 has a variable speed blower, the actual SEER rating will be more likely 15 SEER. With all of the model numbers we can tell you exactly what the actual ratings of either system is.
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    I'm surprised no one picked up on the model number error since "CDC" stands for Center for Disease Control
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    "Sun57, I believe that Goodman unit would be a GSC14, which is a premium condensing unit with a Copeland scroll compressor and other nice features.

    Do you know what indoor unit model numbers are being quoted? If the indoor unit for the GSC14 has a variable speed blower, the actual SEER rating will be more likely 15 SEER. With all of the model numbers we can tell you exactly what the actual ratings of either system is."
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    Yes, you're right. The Goodman unit is a GSC14, not CDC. It is listed as a 14 SEER, Model#GSC140421A.

    The Trane is a XL14i, up to 15 SEER. Model# 4TTX4042B-1000A.

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    I know what Goodman has that unit "listed" as and I also know that that unit is 15 SEER if the indoor unit has a variable speed blower. Goodman does not play the numbers game that other brands play by calling their unit series by the highest variable in that series.

    When Goodman states a unit is 14 SEER, it is 14 SEER or better. Other manufactures make efficiency claims based on what "some" of the units in that series can achieve.
    Government is a disease...
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  9. #48
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    Originally posted by dash
    Want to know what Copeland says???
    Not interested,well ,I'll tell you anyway.

    They have stated that the Puron/R410a compressor has the lowest failure rate of any they have built.

    This was stated when Carrier was the number 1 user ,if not the only user of this compressor.

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    Originally posted by dash
    Originally posted by dash
    Want to know what Copeland says???
    Not interested,well ,I'll tell you anyway.

    They have stated that the Puron/R410a compressor has the lowest failure rate of any they have built.

    This was stated when Carrier was the number 1 user ,if not the only user of this compressor.
    I didn't want to know

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    You're welcome anyway!!!LOL!!

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    Goodman

    First of all Turtle, Trane never bought equipment from Carrier. I think you will find that Amana made their heat pumps before Trane bought the General Electric Air Conditioning Division! I prefer Trane & Carrier equipment, but must admit that Goodman is much better equipment today. I also find that most contractors sell Goodman. Even some hard line Trane, Carrier & Lennox dealers sell Goodman. Thats how Goodman sells so much stuff; most contractors sell some of it! I see many Trane Comfort Specialist Dealers & Carrier Factory Authorized Dealers with brand lettered trucks carrying Goodman equipment from their trucks to be installed. Lets discuss it in hamburger terms, Mcdonalds does not make the best hamburger you can buy. You can get a better one. But Mcdonalds sells more than anyone else!

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    Hey, Turtle......cant argue with that....

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