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Thread: Ground short ?
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06-07-2012, 09:20 PM #1
Ground short ?
Compressor ----
Copeland
3 Ph
560 Volt
60Hz
Equipment
10 ton split custom made (marine)......
Story.....
I fly 120 miles in the gulf of Mexico to work on a solenoid valve .... Change it.... All is good....
I pulled a vac to 700 microns ....
Dumped recovered gas back in (on both sides) and when I went to start it tripped main breaker. So I took wires off peckerhead and checked to ground. And alas.... Grounded. So.... Does anyone know why? It worked before.... I didn't turn anything on while in vac ....
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06-07-2012, 10:53 PM #2
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06-07-2012, 10:58 PM #3
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I think u charged liquid in suction side. compressor was probably compressing liquid refrigerant.
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06-07-2012, 11:01 PM #4
Topping off the compressor sump with liquid will trash your valves but I doubt it caused an immediate short. Is that for a drive house ?
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06-07-2012, 11:17 PM #5
Was the solenoid liquid valve leaking or just inoperable ?
Did you check it before you replaced the solenoid valve ?
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06-08-2012, 06:02 AM #6
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06-08-2012, 09:05 AM #7
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What is a "VFD house" ? What kind of device interrupts power to the compressor ? Is it a contactor or something else ? What kind of crancase heater, if any ?
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06-08-2012, 09:10 AM #8
"VFD" - Variable Frequency Drive- its on a drilling rig.
It's a 3 phase 600 volt ... So no cap...
Crank case heater has been disabled prior this.
I guess my main question is this ...
Is there any way the insulation in the windings of a compressor be compromised due to a vacuum?
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06-08-2012, 09:21 AM #9
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I thought "VFD" probably meant Variable Frequency Drive, but what exactly is meant by "VFD house" ? EVERYTHING has VFD ? Including compressor ? I realise it has no capacitor, at least I've never heard of a cap used to interrupt power as a means of starting and stopping something, like a compressor... The reason I ask what does start and stop, or interrupt the power to, the compressor is to determine if it is a solid state device ( like a soft starter, or a VFD ). It seems unlikley that it would be anything other that a simple contactor on something this size, but I just wanted to rule it out.
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06-08-2012, 09:38 AM #10
Actually it's a 10 ton with 2 5 ton Copland scrolls. And one legs is always hot with the other two going in a contractor.
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06-08-2012, 09:41 AM #11
Its a seperate building on land and offshore rigs that houses all of the motor control, fuses, controls and VFDs for the DC motors on the rig.
High heat load and a critical part of any rig. You lose AC and the drives overheat and they have to stop drilling.
A multi million dollar operation is put on hold until you get the AC repaired.
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06-08-2012, 10:13 AM #12
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