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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    If you want to cure the plague of fatness in this country, start by education of our youth in schools. Teach them a proper diet and caloric intake, teach them about proper exercise and show them the results when you dont.

    Such as field trips to therapy clinics where folks are being fitted with prosthetic limbs from diabetes. Show them films of triple bypass surgery on 30 year old adults. Teach them not to combat stress with food and that food is not a placebo.

    Get your children involved with sports at school and not video games. This keeps their minds occupied and their bodies fit.

    Tell them what is in our food, such as steroids, bovine growth hormones, irradiated vegetables and fruits.

    Teach them about evil companies such as Monsanto and how our government is bought by such companies.

    Get rid of stupid fast food commercials and advertise good eating habits of the basic food groups. They did when I was a kid.

    Teach them the truth and you will see change! Show them good habits when they are young, and they will practice them for life...usually.

    My daughter is 15, she is on the track team and plays volleyball. My son is 12 and has been playing baseball for 6 years and taking Kung Fu for the last 3 years. When they want to snack, we tell them that they can eat all the fruits and vegetables they want....we police the junk food.
    If I were to pick one post to share with people that you have written over the years this would be it.
    Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by commtech77 View Post
    No matter their stupidity the job of regulating what they do and not eat is not the job of the government.
    Why should a government regulate that cars should have seat belts?


    If a person wants to buy two cups of what was once a large drink when I was a kid then they have that right, the government is not infringing on it. The government is talking about regulating the size of the cup. Reread coolwhip's above post. Or better yet take the tour he prescribes. I take the tour every day and see precisely what he has wrote. And you are saying this is a good thing?

    Who is to change the way society is going? The soft drink industry?
    Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain

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    There it is. Those evil corporations. It exposes your ideology that generally supports a nanny state government.

    People and liberals who think this way are so short sighted. As if the government has a shred of credibillity left after blowing through 5 trillion in 3 years just to perpetuate mediocrity.

    That they are the standard by which all lowley citicenz should adhere to.

    Bottom line it's the slippery slope argumemt.

    And saying obese people "cripple America" is just hyperbolic rhetoric and a weak attempt at reinforcing your argument.

    It detracts from a honest debate. No amount of money spent, tax's payed, laws enforced will have an effect on obesity.
    How much money have we spent on fighting illegal drugs ?

    It's their attempt (gov't) to get the ball rolling so they can slowly institute reforms and laws that will slowly become more and more draconian.

    All the interest of helping people right ? Or helping children or saving lives. I wish people were smarter when it comes ti stuff like this.

    Analyze it historically and draw parallels to past events with out going over board.

    What's the old idiom? There is nothing new under the sun ?

    That statement is so true.

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    I cant wait to see the narcotics-sugary drinks team photos of their big profile bust. I can see it right now a mini mart selling jubo gulps being raided while the drug dealers look on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by commtech77 View Post
    There it is. Those evil corporations. It exposes your ideology that generally supports a nanny state government.

    People and liberals who think this way are so short sighted. As if the government has a shred of credibillity left after blowing through 5 trillion in 3 years just to perpetuate mediocrity.

    That they are the standard by which all lowley citicenz should adhere to.

    Bottom line it's the slippery slope argumemt.

    And saying obese people "cripple America" is just hyperbolic rhetoric and a weak attempt at reinforcing your argument.

    It detracts from a honest debate. No amount of money spent, tax's payed, laws enforced will have an effect on obesity.
    How much money have we spent on fighting illegal drugs ?

    It's their attempt (gov't) to get the ball rolling so they can slowly institute reforms and laws that will slowly become more and more draconian.

    All the interest of helping people right ? Or helping children or saving lives. I wish people were smarter when it comes ti stuff like this.

    Analyze it historically and draw parallels to past events with out going over board.

    What's the old idiom? There is nothing new under the sun ?

    That statement is so true.
    Just wait 10-15 years. When the baby boomers hit retirement age and all these health problems start taxing the health industry. Hyperbolic rhetoric? Stick your head in the sand. Go look up how many percent of your GDP goes to health care and look at the projections for this time frame.

    And how does the silly fight on the war on drugs relate to limiting the cup size of drinks? Write a regulation and have the pop industry comply or they get fined. Not like it will cost a lot of money like the phony war.

    And I really do not care about your children. It is the cost of the health problems which will eat at the competitiveness of your nation that worries me. You are our best customer. You start tying up your money in just keeping your population alive and less of those dollars are going to flow north to us.
    Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain

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    I'll have a moster thickburger with chili on it....and a large order of chili cheese fries....a medium shake, chocolate......and a small diet coke please.

    I use to work with a guy named Fred... he weighed about 350...... sometimes when he would go to lunch with us at a restaurant he would eat the lunch he packed on the way to wherever we were going.

    He would woof down a couple of sandwiches and some chips......on the way to lunch.

    He only worked for the company because our boss felt pity on him. Good guy..... but he was useless for anything but "holding" something.

    He was a pig though..... I wouldnt get between him and a food item....he would trample you to death.

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    As I was standing in line at the grocery store over the weekend, all the checkstands were busy. I realized it was the 1st of the month and welfare accounts are full. I look around at these people with their Oregon trails card, WIC, or what ever they use to spend taxpayer funds on groceries. More than half are well beyond the BMI index and some of them are in the range of "damn". The other group of people, the ones who are paying with their own money, are thinner than their counterparts. When looking at grocery carts for comparison, I see one with lazy food like frozen pizza, tv dinners, ice cream and other items that would put the witch that was fattening up Hansel and Grettal to shame. The other carts I saw more produce, fresh meat, and other items to prepare meals. I could draw a conclusion base on what I saw, but they don't sell big gulps here.

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    Another conclusion that could be drawn is that some people just can't cook. Advice: never stop at a restaurant that has a sign Home Cooking. It will probably suck.
    Another is no time to cook. Kids etc.
    Another, no interest.
    There are several restaurants here that are packed out. Not because of the good food but because of the enormous portions.
    Food here is cheap, abundant, and usually fried. When I went to school (long ago) few kids were overweight. Also kids didn't run in circles acting nuts. We ate a lot of junk and didn't give it much thought. Not all that different from what many kids eat today. Probably less of it. But we did get off are a$$es. Played until it was too dark. Only stopped for I Love Lucy and Dragnet.
    Computers are taking their toll.
    Tracers work both ways.

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    Yep, the internet is ruining our society. turning people into ghouls who live their lives out on the net.

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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    Well with people being too stupid in their eating habits to the point of where half if not more of the population is obese who is going to act as the adult?
    So, you must think the people are pretty much children and government needs to be their mama. That is socialism ya know!
    "No matter how thirsty your imagination, mirages contain no water"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh B View Post
    So, you must think the people are pretty much children and government needs to be their mama. That is socialism ya know!
    You get the government that you deserve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by printer2 View Post
    You get the government that you deserve.
    Are you quoting Hunter Thompson? one of my favorite authors you know.

    In a Democracy, you get the government you deserve.

    I thought this was a Republic.
    Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.

    Theodore Roosevelt

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    Are you quoting Hunter Thompson? one of my favorite authors you know.

    In a Democracy, you get the government you deserve.

    I thought this was a Republic.
    Yup, we have a constitution that serves to place limits on the power of government thru the system of checks and balances (three opposing-balancing-checking groups) as well as a Bill Of Rights.

    The problem now is that all three branches are ignoring our constitution and going their own way with the media acting as if they are a forth branch of government spinning the truth or refusing to cover the truth.
    "No matter how thirsty your imagination, mirages contain no water"

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