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05-31-2012, 04:31 PM #1Professional Member*
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Check this out guys. For you contractors get in touch with one of your local distributors and become a certified installer. I am in the process of becoming one. I went through Gemaire Distributors to get my pass code. Anyways I think this T-stat or one like it in the coming future is going to be huge. On our way to more automation in residential applications. I like it, its a smart t-stat that remembers what you do. Well just check out the site and let me know what you guys think
05-31-2012, 04:53 PM #2
Sorry but the Nest just doesnt impress me. Not for what they want for the thing.
Adaptive self program is cool in all but in the end its still a T stat.
05-31-2012, 04:59 PM #3
A single stage t-stat, with no humidity control, at that. The people in high end homes who can afford to throw money at a wall hung and rarely interacted with gadget, likely also would be better off with a 2-stage unit with dehumid or humid (depending on climate), which the NEST can't control properly.
I also don't see why any HVAC tech should need 'training' to install this thing - unless of course it's training in the right type of BS to lay on the 'customer' to make the sale.
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05-31-2012, 05:04 PM #4
Yep. Its like the I-pad of thermostats . Impressive but overpriced and easily substituted.
Actually I think Nest was started by a guy who came frorm Apple.
05-31-2012, 05:26 PM #5
05-31-2012, 07:22 PM #6"Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."
"Dude, you need more than 2 wires to a condenser to run a 2 stage heatpump."
"Just get it done son."
05-31-2012, 09:44 PM #7
I have never seen one up close but I hope they kick honeywell's ass in court. Honeywell has become " elite " or " smug " as far as thier hvac products IMO.
A Wi - Fi stat , heck yeah ( should have been out 3 years ago and here comes one out of nowhere and slaps honeywell in the face , lol ).
05-31-2012, 10:01 PM #8
The Nest stat has absolutely nothing new in it, and as already mentioned, is very limited for comfort features or multi-function staging controls. The Nest can't even take advantage of the benefits of variable speed motors.
There is a reason that other controls companies have not marketed a stat that turns off the system as much as it possibly can; no one wants such an animal.
Carrier dealers who have to get "certified" to install the Nest stat are up against any HO who wants to pick one of these overrated hubcaps from Best Buy, Lowe's or anywhere on the internet.
As an HVAC professional, I'd be embarrassed to install one of those things.Government is a disease......masquerading as its own cureEcclesiastes 10:2 NIV
05-31-2012, 10:21 PM #9
Before you run off and sign up to be a "certified installer", check with other Nest "certified installers" to see what Nest's track record is for paying for the installations...
I've seen mentions from at least one person on this forum, and from 2 others via another source, that have done several thermostat installations for Nest, but haven't gotten paid.
The deal is that the homeowner can buy the thermostat from one of the retailers that carries them. They can either install it themselves, or pay Nest for the installation.
Nest sends out a local contractor that is a "certified installer", and then Nest allegedly pays the contractor.
From what I hear, the payment to the contractor part isn't happening like it should be.If more government is the answer, then it's a really stupid question.
05-31-2012, 11:09 PM #10New Guest
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I am a little shocked by the process in which this thermostat gets purchased and installed. Definitely putting a corporate spin on the purchase and installation of the thermstat.
I read up on the thermostat when it was introduced and haven't thought about it since. Definitely not appealing to me and I agree with previous posts...too costly for its features. At that price it should massage my back when I come home.
To respectfully correct a previous post, Ecobee introduced a wi-fi thermostat at least 2 years ago. I stumbled across it on the internet and almost ordered one. Ecobee obviously did a poor job of marketing their product(which is still being sold). I would have bought and sold them to my customers if they were stocked at local distributors only for the ease of possible warranty claims. Who wants to have to mail thermostat around to get a warranty.
Honeywells new wi-fi set up is simple and affordable. Plus, despite their ruling the thermostat world, they are the most user friendly thermostats around...in my opinion.
sorry. The simple answer to the original question is...the hassle outweighs the reward. If I am asked to install one because a customer preferrs one then Ill investigate, but not something I plan to offer.
05-31-2012, 11:18 PM #11Professional Member
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Certified installer for a t-stat? Now I've heard everything lol Read about that product when it came out (the link was sent to me by an Apple fanboi) and got a good laugh out of it. A t-stat that doesn't do what you want when you want it. Will give the resi guys more service calls, at least.
05-31-2012, 11:47 PM #12
I am not being negative about the Geek Squad. I have used those guys a few times for my computers and they are great.....for computers.Government is a disease......masquerading as its own cureEcclesiastes 10:2 NIV
06-01-2012, 12:12 AM #13Professional Member
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There are gas equipment rental companies that do tens of thousands of appliances a year and each one of those appliances has their sticker. If something goes wrong on another appliance, they're the first ones your typical HO calls and gladly pays $140 per hour for their courteous techs who always put on their booties, drive spotlessly clean trucks with trusted logos and wear their perfectly ironed uniforms. Then you have competent service specialists who can actually tell one end of the multimeter from the other and even use the tool charging $80-100 per hour, but your typical HO doesn't even know that they exist.