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Thread: Cerbond... ??

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    No, I have not used this product but you have my interest heightened. Dang you Dad. Now I gotta look.
    The picture in my avatar is of the Houston Ship Channel and was taken from my backyard. I like to sit outside and slap mosquitos while watching countless supertankers, barges and cargo ships of every shape and size carry all sorts of deadly toxins to and fro. It's really beautiful at times.....just don't eat the three eyed fish....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooked View Post
    No, I have not used this product but you have my interest heightened. Dang you Dad. Now I gotta look.
    Sorry man... but from what I hear there are a few places in TX that are running this stuff.

    I talked to the guy on the video and he gave me the same sales info. This has been on the market for just under a year now and I know I'm not the first to hear about it.

    What about it guys?

    They say it cleans out and dissolves old oil crud from the system, lowers evap temps because it lowers discharge temps (subcooling change?), reduces run times due to colder air supply temps. Yes, I asked him about dehumidification but he walked around it the question. Also said it reduced friction in the compressor by coating everything with nano technology ceramic so you get less amp draw... you guys know the drill.

    The question is... anyone have experience with this and if so does it work or is it just another same old, same old.

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    This is on my list, I have absolutely nothing on my docket for tomorrow and I will search this beast down and beat it to death. I have a prime candidate, a 65 unit apartment complex of old junkie R22 units that the owner wants me to babysit.
    The picture in my avatar is of the Houston Ship Channel and was taken from my backyard. I like to sit outside and slap mosquitos while watching countless supertankers, barges and cargo ships of every shape and size carry all sorts of deadly toxins to and fro. It's really beautiful at times.....just don't eat the three eyed fish....

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    Snake oil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crackertech View Post
    Snake oil.
    Do you really think so? Do you have any hands on? I simply don't know and I hate to exercise contempt prior to investigation.
    The picture in my avatar is of the Houston Ship Channel and was taken from my backyard. I like to sit outside and slap mosquitos while watching countless supertankers, barges and cargo ships of every shape and size carry all sorts of deadly toxins to and fro. It's really beautiful at times.....just don't eat the three eyed fish....

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackertech View Post
    Snake oil.
    you got that right.

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    They claim it works on gas powered engines as well. There is a demonstration using a Harley being done today. They are supposed to send me the Dyno results. When I get it I will post the results.

    I'm not condoning this stuff at all. Tom, I'm not calling it Snake Oil either. I'll be very happy to put it in my customers Trane systems if that's what he wants but there are 9 units with a combination of over 120 tons.

    They already verified to me that it will void any compressor warranty and they carry insurance to cover damage. Bet it would be tough to prove damage unless a compressor just goes to hell in a big way right after.

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    Sounds like the nanoceramic technology used for modern non-stick cookware.

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    I heard back that the additive had to be in the motor for a bit before any real noticeable improvement can be seen in HP or TQ on the Dyno. They are also going to check the heat from the rear cylinder. All the baseline temps and specs were drawn up today. The rest will be a few days from now.

    Was told that the manager allowed them to put an oz of this stuff in his car ac. Baseline with infrared was 31* out of the dash supply duct. After induction of this stuff it was 6* in the same duct with the same run time.. I find that really hard to believe. It turned into a freezer?? Uhhhh, no way. I'll run up there and see this for myself and take my own measurements.

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    Somebody on this site once said in similar thread "if it isn't refrigerant or oil, it's a contaminant". I agree with that. As far as those numbers (from 31 F to 6F), I don't know whether to to be alarmed or to laugh. Think I'll laugh....

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    First off, the guy on the product homepage looks like the chubby guy with "it's liquid rubber in a can." crap. Strike 1.

    Lowering your delta T that low, is going to cause your evap to freeze. The coil has to be that atleast as cold as the air. If your putting out 20* air, your condensate is gonna freeze. Charging is going to be a bear. Strike 2.

    It's not a refrigerant, and it's not oil. Strike 3.

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    "The ceramic treatment actually cleans and bonds to the metal surfaces and is able to withstand more heat and pressure than the original equipment."

    Oh yeah, I bet those scroll plates will love that.
    "Better tell the sandman to stay away, because we're gonna be workin on this one all night."

    "Dude, you need more than 2 wires to a condenser to run a 2 stage heatpump."

    "Just get it done son."

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