I thought NATE was geared towards guys with 3-5 years in the field, not guys just out of tech school.
Officially, Down for the count
YOU HAVE TO GET OFF YOUR ASS TO GET ON YOUR FEET
I know enough to know, I don't know enough
Liberalism-Ideas so good they mandate them
They will take anyones money that is willing to take the tests
NATE means nothing in my area.
i've never met anyone here who is NATE certified.
i tried to look into it and all i found were dead links to the places that were supposed to give the test.
i've even had a couple of employers try to find some places unsuccessfully.
from what i've heard, the NATE tests ask unusual questions that only people who have been in the field for a while would know
What are some of the unusual questions?
Originally Posted by wolfstrike
Check out Pacific Gas and Electric I believe the serve California.
I don't know how credible the certification is, but they are one of the sponsors of this forum. I have seen their advertisements on the right side of the screen.
Our local community college offers two years HVAC program, withing the first year the students take the EPA and NATE test, the passing rate is close to 100%.
Originally Posted by drkglass01
Most homeowners have no idea what NATE is, the whole idea wasn't marketed to them, its all geared to us the techs paying them $300+ to get a certification that nobody cares about.
I heard rumors that NATE is in big financial trouble and they are about to go belly up.
I have no certification other than EPA, the county journeyman license I have and the 5 year union apprenticeship I completed in 1997.
That used to be good enough.
The union apprentices graduating today have to take some silly exam.
In my area many of the HVAC companies want only techs that are NATE certified. IN MY OPINION, I think NATE is like a big shiny button people wear to show off. At least 50% of the techs that are NATE certified can not diagnose a sore throat, much less an oil furnace or a heat pump. Many of the new HVAC graduates get certified with no or little experiance in the field. The experiance one can get working with both outstanding long time Techs. and those that still blow out drain lines with r22 and diagnose a/c with " Well, the big line is cold." is worth more than all the shiny buttons.
I agree ! If that option presents itself, I would jump on it. I hope I get the opportunity to get some experience with a seasoned technician.
Originally Posted by mikeybow
Where did you here this rumor?
Originally Posted by valdelocc
Unless you are aware of every major HVAC manufacturer getting ready to go under,I would not believe rumors.
It has taken over 12 years to focus on the consumer but it is here now with advertisement on Tv and radio and a NATE consumer website. They are here to stay along with HVAC Excellence, and RSES.
If your state/county/local juristiction has a licensing program I would concentrate on that.
The NATE cert is basically worthless here because you still need a state journeyman license to work on your own so there's really no point in getting the NATE thing unless your employer wants it to show off. Honestly, I think it would be much more beneficial to advertise having state licensed techs instead of NATE because the state license is harder to come by.
Saving the world...one service call at a time.
Well if you want the background to qualify to take the test for your state professional HVAC contrator's liciense then I suggest you figure out how to get your schooling at your local college. That helps a lot in addition to your work experience. Thank you very much
Originally Posted by drkglass01
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"I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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That Mainstream Engineering site is great! They have a downloadable study guide for the EPA test. I have been using it to further the things I have learned in class.
Originally Posted by second opinion
I think I might be ready to try the test, the next time my school offers it.