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  1. #14
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    Originally posted by amickracing
    Originally posted by srmfsr
    I just emptied my shop floor and walls.
    Man is the boss gunna be ticked when he finds no plumbing left in the shop! lol

    I'm the boss.
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    Man, yanking the plumbing pipes out of your own shop walls?! lol

    jus messing with ya
    "If you call that hard work, a koala’s life would look heroic."

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    copper

    just watched today roofing guys take up 30 feet of copper valley,from a house in shreveport la., I bet it was still good. they did not put it in the tash, they put it aside for next weeks lunch money. when was the last time you saw acopper valley on a house.

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    at $2.60/lb for copper scrap ---hell yeah i make $260 a week on average with scrap .(brass,copper,cast iron and tin) the past few weeks i have been replacing water to water domestic coils for apartment houses --at 70-90lb each thats good eatin money --2 weeks ago i had 2 coils --180# $420 cash --college savings for the little ones --

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    I always get ripped off when I take stuff to the ones around here. They tell me it's not "clean". What do you have to do to make it clean?

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    you need to go somewhere else --the coils i bring back are limed inside and dirty outside --fittings with solder are considered dirty --you need to cut them at the joints and seperate it or unsweat and clean it up --where are located ?

  7. #20
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    Originally posted by midhvac
    I always get ripped off when I take stuff to the ones around here. They tell me it's not "clean". What do you have to do to make it clean?
    You can't have mixed metals like steel screws in aluminum panels. I take a coil, and sawzall the ends off....nothing but copper /aluminum which is clean. Dirty has steel mixed in.
    If everything was always done "by the book"....the book would never change.

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    Meth addicts find gold in copper
    Police seeing trend of scrap metal theft
    BY FREDERICK MELO
    Pioneer Press
    With police cracking down on homespun methamphetamine laboratories, addicts and small-time dealers appear to be turning to a new trade to fund their habit: copper.

    "Anytime you've got copper thefts, you've got meth problems," said Dakota County Sheriff Don Gudmundson. "One goes with the other."

    Reports of stolen copper, aluminum and scrap metal have jumped in the past two years in step with worldwide demand for construction materials, which have risen dramatically in price.

    Authorities say that copper can net salvagers from $1.50 to $2.40 per pound, drawing thieves to utility companies, construction sites and even farms, electrical transformers and small businesses for their metals.

    From copper spools in industrial yards to the fresh wiring in new homes, robbers are reselling the hard-to-trace materials to unscrupulous scrap yards or recycling centers, which melt them down for profit.

    Gudmundson and other law enforcement officials say it's little secret that the ill-gotten gains are being spent on meth.

    New state laws last year forced pharmacies to remove cold pills commonly used in meth production from plain sight. Statistics are still being compiled, but officials with the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension believe the number of home meth labs has plummeted as a result.

    But the drug remains in plentiful supply because foreign cartels are still importing the narcotic from Mexico and other countries, BCA spokesman Kevin Smith said. And to pay for their fix, former meth cookers are abandoning their basement laboratories and filling their homes with stolen metals, some police officials believe.

    "This is our best guess. It's not nearly as easy to make your own meth as it used to be," said Lakeville Police Chief Steve Strachan. "Addicts will find a way to get what they need. It's the nature of drugs and crime. When you solve (one) problem, you create another."

    Strachan's hypothesis was put to the test in early June when his officers arrested a mother-and-son pair who had allegedly stuffed the garage of their Lakeville home with stolen copper and aluminum wiring, as well as drills, saws and construction tools.

    Detectives also uncovered a crack-cocaine pipe, strips of LSD and receipts showing a small fortune in illegal sales to scrap yards.

    "There were probably $15,000 to $20,000 in receipts for copper and aluminum," detective Andrew Bohlen said.

    Robert Stephen Huber, 21, and Alice Marie Huber, 53, were both charged with possession of stolen property, receiving stolen property and a fifth-degree drug crime. Convicted in Scott County on a previous charge of meth possession, Robert Huber was sent to state prison in late June.

    Across the metro area, authorities say they've encouraged scrap yards and recycling centers to alert them when suspicious characters show up with new wiring and other questionable items, but they rarely, if ever, receive such tips.

    "Clearly, these places know they're buying stolen property," Bohlen said. "We had a case recently where someone delivered six brand-new aluminum beer kegs."

    In the small central-Minnesota community of Maple Lake, an electrical contractor on Sunday discovered that thieves had stolen more than 50,000 feet of copper wiring, $10,000 in work tools and his van.

    "Anytime there's a lot of new homes being constructed, it seems like that's where the thefts are taking place," said Lt. Daniel Anselment, a patrol supervisor with the Wright County Sheriff's Department, which is investigating the theft. "Sometimes they're actually cutting the copper wire from the homes."

    Police have also received reports of stolen copper gas lines, water lines, and even the copper tubing on rural irrigation systems.

    To combat the thieves, utility companies such as Xcel Energy and the Dakota Electric Association in Farmington say they've begun using floodlights at night to illuminate their work yards, and they instruct employees to alert them when suspicious people linger near their construction sites.

    "In the last six months or so, we have definitely cut into it with our vigilance in working with local law enforcement," said Ed Legge, a loss-control specialist with Xcel Energy, which has been targeted repeatedly by thieves.

    But authorities also know that breaking the bond between thievery and drug addiction is a tall order.

    "What do most people steal for?" said Capt. Brad Wayne, lead investigator with the Dakota County sheriff's office. "Whether it be gambling or drugs, very few people steal to produce income for their families. Many times theft is a result of people's vices."

    Frederick Melo can be reached at fmelo@pioneerpress.com or 651-228-2172.



  9. #22
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    Originally posted by smokin68
    Originally posted by midhvac
    I always get ripped off when I take stuff to the ones around here. They tell me it's not "clean". What do you have to do to make it clean?
    You can't have mixed metals like steel screws in aluminum panels. I take a coil, and sawzall the ends off....nothing but copper /aluminum which is clean. Dirty has steel mixed in.
    smokins right, you get more for the coil this way "clean" plus you have the added bonus of #2 copper from the loops you cut off.
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