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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    The main issue that is in front of the Supremes is the constitutionality of the individual mandate, this seems to be the opponents way of overturning the Affordable Care Act since most of the lawsuits have used this as their basis.

    It has been a good number of years since I had to purchase car insurance in Mass so I have very little first hand knowledge of the inner workings of this socialist plot.

    So I take it the GOP has not moved measurably to the right since they proposed health care reforms in the 90's? Talk about spin and losing credibility, hell, Saint Ronny would not even have a voice in the present day Repub party.
    And therein lies the problem with Netsalt. Once the conversation steers away from whatever liberal source he uses he gets quite discombobulated! He is so lost that he has no choce to steer the discussion back to the only talking point he knows, because if the conversation evolves past what he's been programmed to say, he just hates looking unknowledgeable.

    How about discussing how the Heritage proposal is based on free markets and is not based on, say, vouchers like both Romney Care and Obama care are.

    I'm telling you why the proposals are quite different, and all we get back is you sticking yor finger in your ear and singing la la la la la.

    Just like many other times on these boards.

    Pathetic doesn't begin to describe your debating prowess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrogdog View Post
    And therein lies the problem with Netsalt. Once the conversation steers away from whatever liberal source he uses he gets quite discombobulated! He is so lost that he has no choce to steer the discussion back to the only talking point he knows, because if the conversation evolves past what he's been programmed to say, he just hates looking unknowledgeable.

    How about discussing how the Heritage proposal is based on free markets and is not based on, say, vouchers like both Romney Care and Obama care are.

    I'm telling you why the proposals are quite different, and all we get back is you sticking yor finger in your ear and singing la la la la la.

    Just like many other times on these boards.

    Pathetic doesn't begin to describe your debating prowess.
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    The Affordable Care Act is the only health care proposal on the table, debating the opposing proposals is impossible because there is nothing on the table that can be voted on. Republicans had 6 years to fix this mess - they choose to ignore it. The Dems came up with and passed a health initiative, while it is far from perfect the alternative is to throw it out and kick the can down the road as premiums soar and less and less people can afford health care, the free market has failed. But as usual the conservative mind can't get past that invisible hand stuff and actually propose something that will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    The Affordable Care Act is the only health care proposal on the table, debating the opposing proposals is impossible because there is nothing on the table that can be voted on. Republicans had 6 years to fix this mess - they choose to ignore it. The Dems came up with and passed a health initiative, while it is far from perfect the alternative is to throw it out and kick the can down the road as premiums soar and less and less people can afford health care, the free market has failed. But as usual the conservative mind can't get past that invisible hand stuff and actually propose something that will work.
    More of the same.

    What has that to do with the claim that Obama's proposal is like Heritage's?

    You're not very good at this.

    The article also deals with WHY premiums soar. Have you addressed that part?

    Of course not. You just make bold claims about it WITHOUT EVEN HAVING READ IT.

    Pffft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrogdog View Post
    More of the same.

    What has that to do with the claim that Obama's proposal is like Heritage's?

    You're not very good at this.

    The article also deals with WHY premiums soar. Have you addressed that part?

    Of course not. You just make bold claims about it WITHOUT EVEN HAVING READ IT.

    Pffft.
    Your right I couldn't get past the pictures - that reading thing is hard work.

    The constitutionality of the individual mandate is what is in front of the Supreme court.

    Just because I sited an article which proves the Heritage foundation and some key Rs proposed the mandate does not mean I agree with all of the opinion contained in the article. Let's try to stay focused.
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    Very well then.

    You just stand there like a good little statue parroting what you've been told over and over even though that point is no longer what we are talking about, and the rest of us will have an actual conversation.

    You don't appear to be much more than a hand-puppet.
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    Sorry, I guess we were talking car insurance. I like the green guy but the one wearing khakis is pretty good too, but then again maybe the guy with the deep voice. I'm so confused
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    I'm so confused
    We can tell...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebCTRL View Post
    You are just sooooo biased. Why can't you just look at things objectivley instead of this having to ba a war of left and right and just look at things that are truly good for the country as a whole.

    Laughable.
    Sorry, all I know is that Forbes confirmed my position. You know, the conservative Forbes, the free market Forbes, the Forbes that is headed by a former candidate for the Repubublican presidential nomination.


    I didn't depend on a left-wing, dope-smoking hippie source.


    That is orders of magnitude of objectivity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebCTRL View Post
    We can tell...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebCTRL View Post
    We can tell...
    Did you ever wonder why every right wing attempt at comedy fails on TV?
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    I guess you can read into an articial anything you please but the fact is many conservatives were endorsing the mandate even before "Hillarycare" was proposed. This shows an obvious ( to most people) shift in the politics of the GOP and conservativism itself. Just as one of the comments said "Republicans are great at making excuses, and sadly for them, facts do not back up what they say."
    This kind of wraps up the whole zeitgeist of conservatives regarding the mandate.

    But as Romney said in a debate in Las Vegas last October "we got the idea of an individual mandate....from Newt Gingrich, and Newt got it from the Heritage Foundation."

    Sums it all up, right from the horse's mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Did you ever wonder why every right wing attempt at comedy fails on TV?
    I would add attempts at wit also.
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