I don't get any indications of a totalitarian family structure. I see men and women doing the same jobs and driving the same buggies. The children seem to be very content and family gatherings are a familiar site.Originally posted by gruntly
Sounds Totalitarian to me...
Few guys at the top... AND I MEAN GUYS, ladies... making all the decisions for the rest.
I moved out of the house to make my own decisions as my children will after me (I hope). The only compromise I make voluntarily is to my wife.
You guys down there surprise me, really. Negative vibes concerning non-Americans trying to be American, and yet totally accept people who reject that which has made the U.S. what it is today.
In south-western Ontario there are the Mennonite that practice abstinance from social mainsteam as well, somewhat like the Amish but they have different levels of indulgence. The guy who hired me into my first job as an AC mechanic was a Mennonite AC mechanic himself living out of the community, but there are orthodox Mennonites as well.
It's all in the order by which we see ourselves...and this itself always changes to suit the moment.
Do Orthodox Amish see themselves as Americans first and then Amish or Amish first then Americans?
Religion over Government... Same as many other cultures/people around this globe. Does this prevent them from be conscripted into government military?
The Amish are actually a branch off of the Mennonites. The Mennonites are the older of this Christian order of people who keep their lives simpler in order to not be distracted from God. I don't get it, but it seems to work for those who live it.
There seems to be no pressure to stay in the lifestyle. Children are not considered Amish in faith until they have had the oportunity to go out into the world as they wish, including the allowance of alcohol drinking and general rabble rousing. After their year of whooping it up they then decide if they wish to join the Amish faith in which they were raised.
Again; I don't get it, but if it works for those who choose this life, then that is the American way. The Amish are passifists and have no place in the military. Otherwise, the Amish pay taxes without using any government amenities other then the roads which require them to put heftier shoes on their horses. They speak a German dialict among themselves but use English to work within the "outside" world. As far as I know, the Amish consider themselves to be Americans living the Amish way.
Some of the negatives I hear from the hood are;
* Some Amish run puppy mill style kennels that is cruel and inhumane to puppies.
* The Amish hoard money and buy up lots of land that could be better used for developement. (Gee, I wonder who's complaining about that one.)
* The Amish are in the marijuana bisness by growing marijauna among the tobacco crops. (That would sure explain the drive by buggy shootings mentioned earlier )
* Amish are dirty and smell bad. (not something I have ever noticed when in close proximity with Amish in stores.)
* There is an inbreeding problem causing retardation because the Amish are so close knit that they intermarry too close to blood relations.
I think that too many people are just too intolerant of my Amish neighbors. I may think their ways to be strange, but so what?