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    The more experienced you are, the less likely you'll be hired..

    We see listing after listing for experienced service technicians, the truth is that you better not be more knowledgeable than the person that will be your supervisor. Because he is going to do everthing in his power to get rid of you. Not sure if it's job security or insecurity....A smaller company, they're afraid you're going to take over their business. !!!
    I've owned my own company for 18 years (divorced, everyone knows the rest of that story). I had to relocate to another state where no one knew me, and dummy up my resume to get a job. I worked for 2 different outfits, ended up leaving both because it didn't take long for them to realize I knew more than I let on. They had me working alone and taking on the jobs that they'd been putting bandaids on. In turn, the jobs I fixed the right way caused the customer to get pissed at the company which caused the company to get pissed at me. In good conscience I couldn't continue doing that kind of work.
    Are there any other older/more experienced techs who had to deal with this? How do you handle it?

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    I would never hire a cocky sounding business owner either.

    Would you?


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    Yes, and I did. Charlie taught me how to do takeoffs on commercial jobs, how to figure labor and time for running ductwork, line sets, setting equipment, how to decipher specs, put together submittals, at the end of the day, he taught me alot. I compensated him well for it. (He retired).
    Nobody knew about my business when I interviewed for the position. When a manager stands over your shoulder and watches you reconfigure a controller that thought it was running a cooler when it was really a freezer, the unit didn't know it needed to go into a defrost. Then come to find out that there were 8 service calls on that one piece of equipment. If someone would have told me this before going out, I could have down played it with the customer.
    I'm lost as to the cocky comment, not sure where you get that from.

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    You have just struck a very important chord.

    I have had several interviews spanning the past five years, and I can tell you the most of the service managers I have sat down and spoken with have not been able to function on my level of knowledge in this industry.

    One guy in particular was quite certain about how to add capacitors in parallel and in series. I did not want to tell him he was wrong during my interview.

    I actually had to go home and find a web page that explained the correct method, and I emailed the link to him.

    The last words I ever heard from him was a response to my email that said, "now you've got me thinking," and I'm sure what he was thinking was, "if I hire this guy he's going to take my job."

    No one wants to hire their replacement.
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    I see your point. I don't think I would have e mailed him though. LOL Nobody knows everything and the day we stop learning in this business is the day we should quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    You have just struck a very important chord.

    I have had several interviews spanning the past five years, and I can tell you the most of the service managers I have sat down and spoken with have not been able to function on my level of knowledge in this industry.

    One guy in particular was quite certain about how to add capacitors in parallel and in series. I did not want to tell him he was wrong during my interview.

    I actually had to go home and find a web page that explained the correct method, and I emailed the link to him.

    The last words I ever heard from him was a response to my email that said, "now you've got me thinking," and I'm sure what he was thinking was, "if I hire this guy he's going to take my job."

    No one wants to hire their replacement.
    Some guys do.....I would love to find my replacement.....they can have my job.

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    I attended a trade show yesterday, one of the sales men commented "look at the demographics in this room. A bunch of white haired techs and Trade School wannabes". the 30 - 45 year old group has disappeared. A good tech with experience and training is worth there weight in gold and the price is going up for at least 10 more years!

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    My experience has been the opposite, more experience and knowledge has translated into better job, higher pay and becoming more attractive to employers in terms of hiring. Besides experience and knowledge one must have the right attitude,put your employer above self as a whole and be good to your co-workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fixmikelol View Post
    I see your point. I don't think I would have e mailed him though. LOL Nobody knows everything and the day we stop learning in this business is the day we should quit.

    I seek to learn every day.

    That said, if I demonstrate my knowledge in all but one interview I have had, it results in a loss of eye contact and verbalized interest.

    The one interview where I liked the guy meant that I would have to start a new commercial division, and the money I wanted for that was not there.

    One guy started off the interview by saying "wow...you actually filled out the application."

    As if to suggest that other people he has hired in his 75 truck commercial HVAC company did not fill out the application.

    Another said, "that RSES stuff doesn't matter to me." Then he asked me if I knew what superheat was, and he acted surprised when I told him.

    Maybe it's just the Philly area....
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    Quote Originally Posted by pecmsg View Post
    I attended a trade show yesterday, one of the sales men commented "look at the demographics in this room. A bunch of white haired techs and Trade School wannabes". the 30 - 45 year old group has disappeared. A good tech with experience and training is worth there weight in gold and the price is going up for at least 10 more years!

    In 15 years, a commercial tech won't be able to communicate with the store manager, unless she speaks Vietnamese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixmikelol View Post
    I see your point. I don't think I would have e mailed him though. LOL Nobody knows everything and the day we stop learning in this business is the day we should quit.
    While I agree that no one can know everything, HE brought it up. He was pretty confident about it, too.

    I emailed him with a reason.

    First, I could not believe that he really did not know how to perform that task, so I took it as a test. This was after the interview ended, and I had time to think about it on the drive home, late at night.

    I had driven a significant distance after my normal work day for the interview, in New Jersey.

    Once I decided if he was testing me to see if I knew enough to correct bad information, I gave him my personal explanation pf the process, along with the web page illustrations.

    I still can't believe he could run a service company large enough to advertise on the top news radio station in town.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    My experience has been the opposite, more experience and knowledge has translated into better job, higher pay and becoming more attractive to employers in terms of hiring. Besides experience and knowledge one must have the right attitude,put your employer above self as a whole and be good to your co-workers.
    If you have a referral to a Philly area contractor where this is true, PM me.
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    I honestly feel like I could walk into any company in my area or any area for that matter and secure a job immediately.

    I would not bother with paperwork, I would just tell them how good I am.

    Something along these lines :"I don't know who I'm replacing today, but you may want to let them off before work starts"


    Maybe I'm the cocky one.

    When I did work for other companies, I would walk whenever the need arose.

    Boss smokes dope, I'm gone...no work, I'm gone....better opportunity, I'm gone. Always got a job that day. Sometimes 4x a year.

    You guys may be overthinking things, or your market could be different. I doubt it tho.

    Always made more money. Getting a late start in life called for such measures


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