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  1. #27
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    Man Wife 2.2 kids, unable to work (for what ever reason), any money saved has gone.

    Party 1 say, we will give you food, shelter, education, health care. now

    Party 2 say, We give you nowt, but in 2-3 years time if Might be a much brighter future, and you might have a better standard of life than you have now.

    If this was you who would you vote for?

    Would you expect people to but political ideals before the survival of their families?

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    This election will be decided by how much hate can be drummed up against the incumbent not the qualifications of the opposition. Welcome to politics in the US, the solutions are there but in a winner takes all - my way or the highway, T party land the deck is stacked against rational choices. Our choices are between a "Lying socialist liberal dirtbag" and a "Lying plutocrat conservative dirtbag"
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    This election will be decided by how much hate can be drummed up against the incumbent not the qualifications of the opposition. Welcome to politics in the US, the solutions are there but in a winner takes all - my way or the highway, T party land the deck is stacked against rational choices. Our choices are between a "Lying socialist liberal dirtbag" and a "Lying plutocrat conservative dirtbag"
    but that Lying plutocrat conservative dirt bag is a republican....we MUST support republicans. Even if their main agenda is to go back and graduate the third grade.

    Sounds stupid huh? Welcome to America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    This election will be decided by how much hate can be drummed up against the incumbent not the qualifications of the opposition. Welcome to politics in the US, the solutions are there but in a winner takes all - my way or the highway, T party land the deck is stacked against rational choices. Our choices are between a "Lying socialist liberal dirtbag" and a "Lying plutocrat conservative dirtbag"
    Don't you have it backwards, isn't the incumbent the one doing the "drumming up of the hate" against the plutocrat? I mean, he certainly can't run on his record, so he's going after the high school years (when he can't even show us any records or history of his high school or even college days) and going after the Bain Capital years to instigate more class warfare.

    It seems your so called plutocrat has been trying to talk about the real issues but the media want to create the battle of hatred not a battle of policy.

    What do you have against the local T Parties and there push for getting the Feds spending in order?

    What do you see as the most pressing item that needs to be addressed in our Country at the moment?

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    Forget the name calling for a minute as it just weakens an argument.
    I've lived through a lot of Presidents. All lied except maybe Carter but few liked him. Many politicians are sociopaths and lying comes natural.
    Obama's really not that bad when compared to some over the last 70 years. At least as far as a social conscience goes.
    He's not trying to strip you of Social Security, medicare, medicaid, unemployment extension, affordable health care ( at least the beginnings of...) and other things that seemed where most Americans wanted to go.
    He is often blamed for things that were coming down the pike anyway.
    Read the Republican budget and ask yourself is that where you want to be?
    Our fed dept can be taken back to where it was with Clinton if the will was there.
    BTW Clinton's enemies made huge amounts of money while he was in office while complaining the whole time.
    And no, nothing I've seen makes me think Obama's a socialist, commie, Muslim, enemy or most of the things he's called, Just a fairly unremarkable President.
    Tracers work both ways.

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    Guess that makes you BLIND Sorry I didn't know

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    THIS Is why the T-tards are disliked. It must nice to be so cocky while operating in an alternate reality ignoring the facts.
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    Bain Capital is fair game just like when the "Community Organizer" label is used like it is something evil.

    The GOP is running a plutocrat - not much room for debate.

    The T party wants to free up capitalism by reducing regulations concerning money. But they want to control our personal lives even more than the current administration - their form of liberty is indeed a strange one - regulations concerning a made up commodity (cash) must be abolished, whereas regulations concerning what I do with my own body need to be tightened.

    There is not one pressing need. There are many. That is what is being missed by the narrow minded folks on the far right fringe.
    Fox News - Rich people paying rich people to tell middle class people to blame the poor.

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    well at least we agree on one thing .... YA CAN"T FIX STUPID

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec View Post
    Guess that makes you BLIND Sorry I didn't know
    What's wrong with someone that chooses to name call (blind) rather than dig into their head to see if there is anything resembling a rational argument there?
    What makes you blind is you don't seem to be able to argue my points but prefer to throw something meaningless out there and hang up.
    Maybe it's your lack of history or source of information.
    Tracers work both ways.

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    you can,t argue with blind either. You and I both know that nothing is gonna change your point of view. You could have this country taken over by terrorists and you would be bragging it as Obama having a great plan to get tourism and foreign investment.

    Anyone not seeing what Obama is doing to this country is not worth taking too much time on being they will just disagree with any facts given.

    Just like Obama and putting together a bypartison group with ideas on solving the deficate. Ok so they came back with answers of what he needed to do. DID HE PAY ANY ATTENTION ....... HELL NO.

    He ignored them and did what he thought would by votes.

    Just as anyone giving you facts ..... You ignore it and go on with the same garbage. No differant then Obama.


    It is entertaining to watch tho. You claim no one backs their arguments to you but you don't back up what you say .......... you think in your mind you do but it just drivel and mass amounts of paperwork just like obamas health care plan. Thousands of pieces of paper no one would take the time to read.

    Its funny how thats all it is anymore with the liberals lie, lie, lie, and if they try corning you on details use missdirection to get away from the subject.

    your guys problem is that people are wising up to it

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