[QUOTE=easyrider;13235691. If an Obama win is what it takes to Wake Up the Establishment GOP then I'm all for it.
just as I said a vote for Ron paul is a votefor Obama.
Your talking out both sides of your mouth acting like your not a liberal but then thats just what a liberal does.... lie ,lie , lie and if someone questions it .... keep lying. Just another axample of liberal MISS DIRECTION
oh and OBAMA is still a SOCIALIST LYING LIBERAL DIRTBAG
The election campaign is a separate function from the presidency. For some people, the election is more important than the presidency, because it's the only chance they have to make an impact-bearing statement about what is best for the country. Unfortunately, it can also be a commitment to suicide.
Originally Posted by easyrider
When Patrick Henry said "Give me liberty or give me death," he was advocating a fight for independence from England. He was ready to make that commitment. But that was the only option available for replacing the commander in chief.
Nowadays, we can just vote him out. We have political voices. With the development of the internet, we have more power at our disposal than ever before.
We're also less patient.
It would be nice if we could kick out the tyrant and replace him with the best man in one fell swoop. But when you can't do both, why opt for neither?
The Serenity Prayer is always good advice for people who find themselves in frustrating positions:
God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.
If you want to live to fight another day, sooner or later you have to stop banging your head against the wall.
CRUD = Contamination Resulting in Undesirable Deposits.
CRAPP = Contamination Resulting in Additional Partial Pressure.
Change your vacuum pump oil now.
Test. Testing, 1,2,3.
If you want Obama out, a primary vote for Paul is more likely to get you there. Republicans are going to vote for whoever is next to the R on the ticket, so for that vote, it really doesn't matter who is there. Democrats are NOT going to vote for Romney... A lot of democrats are likely to vote Ron Paul over Obama. Independants who are sick of either party, and the political games, are likely to choose Paul over Obama given that choice - and would be split otherwise.
The way I see it, the next president of the united states will be Ron Paul, or Barack Obama.
unfortunatley i found out that this latest effort by the delegates was just a stunt to allow Ron Paul to speak during the convention.
the delegates are just like electoral voters, if they don't vote the way their district votes, they could lose their position.
they are all expected to vote for Romney.
if Ron Paul is in the race, one way or another, i will vote for him.
because my soul is more important then somone's percieved perception of an election.
i'm not going to waste my democratic rights voting for some crook, because someone says the other guy is "worse"
Obama is running unopposed in this election, they same way Bush was unopposed when Kerry surfaced.
voting for the lesser evil is not working.
i'll be voting for no evil
That is some "crazifuzzy" math you got there. Pretty much everyone including his campaign manager has conceded what over ninety percent of the rest of us has known for years, Ron Paul wont win. Paul supporters bring denial to a new level. But I will admit I admire their loyalty. In the real world this time its either Obama or Romney. Personally I would prefer Romney.
Originally Posted by CraziFuzzy
I know ron paul won't win. My point was that if romney is the republican nominee, the obama wins. Ron paul was the only one on the republican ticket that had a shot at taking votes away from obama.
Originally Posted by newoldtech