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    Quote Originally Posted by jmac00 View Post
    Liberals with strong economies? Like France, or Greece, or Spain....

    actually, crime in America is at a 4 year low (according to the FBI) and gun sales have sky rocketed. It turns out Obama is a hellofa gun salesman More Guns, less crime

    and just a FYI, America is not in the top thirty nations with violent crime. you look it up, you seem to be good at that
    France has been right wing driven for 17 years, only now has it just reverted to a socialist president. Check the news!
    I promote social responsibility not what you call socialism, I think I am what you call a "moderate"

    Good news Crime is down an guns sales are up, both good for the economy.
    So Obama has done something right.

    I would hope the states is not in the top thirty nations for violet crimes.

    How funny when I started playing the ARP game, i got knocked down for not providing info with my statements, and now that I do, you knock again.
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    Yeah...America is not at the top when it comes to violent crimes...but we are at the top when it comes to all other crimes.

    Many of you are complaining that this country is in bad shape and you think that all we have to do is change our president to fix that....it's more complicated than that.

    Corporations have been buying power for decades...can anyone of you honestly say that if you were a politician and had tens of millions of dollars waved in your face and all you had to do was vote for this bill or vote against that bill, that you would not take the money?

    It is not a matter of who is in office, but who is influencing our politicians...without changing that there will be no way for us to ever have an honest government again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Yeah...America is not at the top when it comes to violent crimes...but we are at the top when it comes to all other crimes.

    Many of you are complaining that this country is in bad shape and you think that all we have to do is change our president to fix that....it's more complicated than that.

    Corporations have been buying power for decades...can anyone of you honestly say that if you were a politician and had tens of millions of dollars waved in your face and all you had to do was vote for this bill or vote against that bill, that you would not take the money?

    It is not a matter of who is in office, but who is influencing our politicians...without changing that there will be no way for us to ever have an honest government again.
    You're right, it IS more complicated than that, but it's a good start.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by prorefco View Post
    You're right, it IS more complicated than that, but it's a good start.....
    It's like going out on a call for no cooling....you get there compressor is shot....you change it....next week you get a call back and the compressor is shot again...do you keep changing the part or do you start looking for why it failed? Which you should have done the first time you were there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    It's like going out on a call for no cooling....you get there compressor is shot....you change it....next week you get a call back and the compressor is shot again...do you keep changing the part or do you start looking for why it failed? Which you should have done the first time you were there.
    Again, you are correct, but,,,,,, if I don't change the compressor first, I have no way of troubleshooting what else is wrong....

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    Quote Originally Posted by commtech77 View Post
    The inevitable emd of any debate with any liberal. Nothing substantiave and no topic related rebut.

    The only thing lacking is getting insulted. Usually an implication or even direct reference that Im a racist or a Nazi.....or botg.
    Go back a few threads I was already accused of being a Nazi and was waiting on the commie accusation, no insults initiated by me I was just standin up for myself when I asked if he was a fascist . Hard core conservatives are predictable if nothing else, they seem to have this vision of non right wingers as anti-gun, anti fishing/hunting pansies. Surprise most are not - I spent the weekend with some likeminded individuals and I would put their collections on a par with any of my more conservative buds. The Conservative Authoritarian personality evidently does not allow any variance from their strict interpretation of life - I just see it as wearing blinders - their loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AStudent View Post
    Yeah...America is not at the top when it comes to violent crimes...but we are at the top when it comes to all other crimes
    BS

    http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2011...1/crime_091911

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

    now that is odd:

    http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2010/06/16...es-in-america/

    you guy want stats, here ya go
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    Babar and Astudent, the things you talk about now have been discussed on here in depth years ago. Pardon me for being a bit forward, but both of you come across as being naive or perhaps even childish in your perceptions of things political.
    I feel as though you are in a 100 level class, yet you are preaching to graduates.
    I am too old and lack the patience to bring you up to speed.
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    Of course it is Obama's fault - the T party roared in to DC 2 years ago with the best of intentions and look at all the good they have done. If it wasn't for that nasty man in the White House vetoing every bill this country would be fixed by now.


    1. December 30, 2009: Vetoed H.J.Res. 64, Making further continuing appropriations for fiscal year 2010, and for other purposes. Override attempt failed in House.[32]
    2. October 7, 2010: Vetoed H.R. 3808, the Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010. Override attempt in the House failed.[33]

    Well two anyway. But that's two too many.
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    Interesting statistics there jmac

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    Conservative play book
    1. insult
    2. straw man argument
    3. quote sourced from a conservative rag or blog, Faux News,conservative think tank
    4. insult
    5. Condescending attitude towards opponent
    6 final insult usually something along the lines of you moran http://media.urbandictionary.com/ima...moran-7512.jpg

    Used with permission of Hannity/Rush LLC
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    Quote Originally Posted by netsalt View Post
    Conservative play book
    1. insult
    2. straw man argument
    3. quote sourced from a conservative rag or blog, Faux News,conservative think tank
    4. insult
    5. Condescending attitude towards opponent
    6 final insult usually something along the lines of you moran http://media.urbandictionary.com/ima...moran-7512.jpg

    Used with permission of Hannity/Rush LLC
    Yup, that about sums it up... So, sue me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolwhip View Post
    Babar and Astudent, the things you talk about now have been discussed on here in depth years ago. Pardon me for being a bit forward, but both of you come across as being naive or perhaps even childish in your perceptions of things political.
    I feel as though you are in a 100 level class, yet you are preaching to graduates.
    I am too old and lack the patience to bring you up to speed.
    Apologies that i am only new to the ARP game, (I can not travel back in time)
    My naivety was that I did understand how narrow minded many americans are and how little understanding they have of other world politics.
    You may well be a graduate in your "little bubble of limited experience" but still at kindergarten as far as world wide bubble.
    I have no problem learning from those who know more, can you say the same. Or do you just dismiss any concept that does not come from your particular political leaning.
    Enjoying the game
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