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    Alpine, CMS/NexTech, CSUSA, DEEM, etc.

    Alpine, CMS/NexTech, CSUSA, DEEM, Engineering Excellence, Lennox NAS, MetroTech, Service Solutions, Source, any others I might of missed. What do you guys have to say about these regional or "national" companies?

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    besides alpine & lnas are any of them in NJ?

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    best companies to work for, highest pay,awesome benefits, they are the cream of the crop, I'm very tempted to leave the union for a shot at one of them

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    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    best companies to work for, highest pay,awesome benefits, they are the cream of the crop, I'm very tempted to leave the union for a shot at one of them
    I don't see why not. Who doesn't want to make less, pay for insurance premuims, pay for retirement? Why not even pay for your own funeral?!

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    MI, you make ot sound so tempting.......

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    Alpine is in Langhorne PA and they are an offshoot of 4 seasons that went belly up (rumor). We hired a guy who worked for them and they produced tech manuals that you had follow in order to setup the equipment. The owners of the 4 seasons started a company called field diagnostics, they advertise on this website.

    I never heard anything about the wages but i cant imagine they pay well since they lowball the hell out of PMs to get the job and they have to make up the loss somehow/

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    DEEM: Low pay, poor insurance (HSA here in OH), a lot of night shift
    Lennox: a friend of mine worked for Benner and it was bought by Lennox NAS. He hates it there. Young guy without much experience promoted to service manager, disorganized, treat their techs poorly here.
    Engineering Excellence: I don't know much about them, but they're here too. Guys I respect talk a lot of trash about them, but I don't really know anything about them myself.

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    A Health Savings Acct. is far from Health Insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicallyInclined View Post
    A Health Savings Acct. is far from Health Insurance.
    what is a health savings account?

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    I believe it's a tax-deferred account usually used in conjunction with high-deductable health insurance plans.

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    i interviewed for one of the mentioned companies( i won't mention which one) and it seems to me like they were more interested in the appearance of looking like a professional company than actually being one.

    they give you an allotted amount of time to get the job done (i.e. a lot less time most good techs would need to cover all the bases to insure minimum chance of call backs). they want you to use their diagnostic tools with their procedures to a tee. they want you to clock in with a hand held, write paperwork with a handheld AND paper ticket, clock out with handheld, etc. tons of micro managing. i could go on and on.

    it just seems like they don't trust their techs abilities and want to lead you by the hand and control your every move as if you were a 10 year old and make it look as though the company is more thorough to the customer than they actually are. but, for some people that might be the perfect job. it's not for me
    You have to pay your due's before you pay the rent!

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    They use the tools because this helps reduce the skills required to service the equipment. Many techs out there are good enough with electrical but have a difficult time with the refrigerant side.

    And the customers are being ripped off no way possible to do the "correct pm" in the amount of time they ask. We had a management company call up saying can you pm a 10 ton or 14 ton unit for $50.00!

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    Well you left out a couple Co's, but you get the idea. This is a market segment driven by cheapa** retailers looking for the lowest common denominator in terms of cost. The folks that approve the repairs on the corporate side often have no idea of what is being suggested for real preventive maintenance. There is an amount to be spent each quarter, and if they spend BELOW that amount, someone gets a bonus. There is no way they will spend more than that, whether a store needs the work done, or not.

    It's a shameful way to conduct business, but no one is watching the fools that are in charge on behalf of the stores. So, you end up with a lot of stuff that a smaller outfit like mine has to go and make right. We don't use a magic box, either.

    Yesterday, I found two rooftop units installed over eight years ago, with economizer actuators rigged to pull AGAINST closed dampers when they get a signal to open. The bellcranks only needed to be placed properly on the shaft end, by someone who had half a clue.

    Those ruined actuators have been sitting like that all that time. It makes you shake your head....
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