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  1. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePipeMan View Post
    One more question.. . Can you opt out hours in the union, once you are 45ish, or in your 50's? What i mean is, can you cut your hours down to 40 or so when you get to be in your 45/50's?
    I can tell by your posts that you aren't going to cut it in this trade.

    Please forget about joining a union shop, we already have enough lazy slackers that want to go home and play video games and don't care about OT, project deadlines, and craftsmanship. We don't need anymore.

    K?Thanx.

  2. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePipeMan View Post
    I'm just trying to weigh out my options. I'm looking for a great career, but still want my freedom, you know. It's hard to find anything that pays a decent amount without having a college education. I'm not really the type to go to school. I ****ed off my entire school career until about 10th and 11th grade, when history ****ed with my mind. I tried college and it just seems like to much work to catch up to where all the rest of the kids are, that actually took school seriously.
    It sounds to me that you have the wrong impression when it comes to this trade, there is a hell of a lot to learn in order to become good, a good work ethic and the desire to learn and focus are essential. I would suggest another trade a little less demanding because hvac is not one of them, all around.

  3. #29
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    Tough crowd. I will add that I'd probably be tougher in person. But I don't know you and you don't know me. In a union job you have to work a specified number of hours annually to secure your pension credit for that year. In our local I believe that number is 1260 hours. In my last union position I cut down to 30 hours a week so that I would be able to cover my pension credit hours.

    I was 61 when I did that. IMO you hustle like hell when you're young and learn as much as you can and become an EXPERT at what you do. Forge relationships with customers. Then when you reach your fifties you'll be in a position where companies will pay you for what and who you know. HVAC is no different than any other business in that sense. If you are a really good mechanic who can be trusted, people will follow you wherever you go. If you're a so-so mechanic who puts himself first and asks "What's in it for me?" you won't get to enjoy much as you put on the years. In fact, you may not last long at any one place to forge the relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zw17 View Post
    If you were to draw a line from Detroit, through Buffalo, Rochester, then over to Syracuse... There is absolutely no work and I was politically connected. I could have had a very cushy job at Kodak working for a very established union contractor. Kodak is now half the size it was 10yrs ago and a fraction of what it was 30yrs ago. I highly doubt that job position would still be around so I consider my decision to flee that state when I did a great one.

    I bailed out of western NY 8yrs ago and don't plan on looking back.

    Except for this weekend when I go back for a funeral.
    you have absolutely no idea what you taking about, in our local out of 1200 members including plumbers and pipefitters we only have 7 guys seating on the bench, if you are half way decent you can pretty much write your own ticket, there is plenty of work around here.
    My employer just hired 4 new guys and placed an add in the paper looking for 2 more cause they dont like whats left on the bench.

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by dlove View Post
    All i can say, If you
    I agree.

  6. #32
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    How old is the OP? Sounds young.
    What job do you have right now?
    I STARTED WITH NOTHING, AND I STILL HAVE MOST OF IT!

  7. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    you have absolutely no idea what you taking about, in our local out of 1200 members including plumbers and pipefitters we only have 7 guys seating on the bench, if you are half way decent you can pretty much write your own ticket, there is plenty of work around here.
    My employer just hired 4 new guys and placed an add in the paper looking for 2 more cause they dont like whats left on the bench.
    I totally agree. Been working steady with ot since I left the local. Making more money also. But it is also spring so locals will be running dry. Let know how many are on the bench come fall.


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    Quote Originally Posted by valdelocc View Post
    you have absolutely no idea what you taking about, in our local out of 1200 members including plumbers and pipefitters we only have 7 guys seating on the bench, if you are half way decent you can pretty much write your own ticket, there is plenty of work around here.
    My employer just hired 4 new guys and placed an add in the paper looking for 2 more cause they dont like whats left on the bench.
    What local?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zw17 View Post
    What local?
    He's from 13 out of Rochester.


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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty hvac View Post
    He's from 13 out of Rochester.


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    I am glad to hear those guys are doing good. I know things were not so well when I left the area.

    So who is supporting the work? Not a whole lot of new contraction, all the major industry is drying up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zw17 View Post
    I am glad to hear those guys are doing good. I know things were not so well when I left the area.

    So who is supporting the work? Not a whole lot of new contraction, all the major industry is drying up.
    Industry isn't the only game here. Plenty of commercial work to go around.


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  12. #38
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    hey kid, try the u.f.c.w. union or the teamsters. i been in both. They both kinda suck.

    But on the good side, lots of people seem to smoke dope in both so once you make it through your first preemployment drug screening you might not have to worry about the side habits again. Fit right in. They all play video games too and screw off.

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    Interesting read
    Since I'm working 600 hrs a week right now, I'm looking forward to cutting back to 40 or so when I'm 50ish
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