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  1. #53
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    Do I want out of HVAC? Well, if I could retire with enough $$$ to do as I please... maybe. However I think I would miss it. I just like working with my hands. Maybe I could do some charity work, however the locations are usually worse than slumlord tenements.

    I like running my own business; and HVAC is one I can run well. Will I ever retire? Probably not. I will just work less and less and less, and only for cherry-picked customers.

    I did the flying gig also, albeit I did not make it to airline pilot. I did flight instruction and some small charter gigs for friends and referrals. I also have an A&P ticket (airplane mechanic), so I got to fiddle with lots of privately owned warbirds... lots of good stories there. (The most fun was going up in an F4U Corsair modified as a trainer (2 seater)... that thing is a cross between an over-powered sports can and a tank. I realized the sacrifices one would have to make their ENTIRE LIFE, along with living on peanuts, to be in aviation... just not something I wanted to do.

    I have a few pilot customers... one used to be in the top 10 seniority at AirTran... until SouthWest bought them. He said he would quit in a minute except for the $$$.

    I hate to say it; When Jimmy Carter deregulated airlines.... it started a long process of cheapening the business. Just one of those things.

    Flying puddle-hoppers is still fun.
    GA-HVAC-Tech

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  2. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    I hate to say it; When Jimmy Carter deregulated airlines.... it started a long process of cheapening the business. Just one of those things.
    It actually made flying a very unprofitable business, and it put pressure on repairs, inspections, maintenance, training...you name it.

    Heavily controlled businesses need to be regulated, so that everyone has no reason to cut into safety. It's a shame that it ruined the business.
    [Avatar photo from a Florida training accident. Everyone walked away.]
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  3. #55
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    Back in the mid 1970's, I worked part time for Pan-am as a baggage handler. One could literally work 20-24 hours a week and get full pass-riding privileges. I literally traveled to the 4 corners of the world and saw things I never could have afforded to go see if I had to pay for the trip... And with airplanes that were 1/2 to 2/3 full, I flew in first class most of the time. We called that 'the glory days of aviation'. NO MORE! Every penny (and fraction of a penny) is managed, even to the point most airlines charge the employees for pass-riding. Something that 'was' good, is now broken... and TSA has only made it worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Back in the mid 1970's, I worked part time for Pan-am as a baggage handler. One could literally work 20-24 hours a week and get full pass-riding privileges. I literally traveled to the 4 corners of the world and saw things I never could have afforded to go see if I had to pay for the trip... And with airplanes that were 1/2 to 2/3 full, I flew in first class most of the time. We called that 'the glory days of aviation'. NO MORE! Every penny (and fraction of a penny) is managed, even to the point most airlines charge the employees for pass-riding. Something that 'was' good, is now broken... and TSA has only made it worse.

    I will always remember the spectacle of being wanded....while in uniform...in front of 100 other people that would join me on the deadhead flight after I dropped off the client's jet in Boca.
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  5. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    I will always remember the spectacle of being wanded....while in uniform...in front of 100 other people that would join me on the deadhead flight after I dropped off the client's jet in Boca.
    About a month ago, some friends and I were relaxing at the local watering hole.

    Somehow, the conversation got off on how stupid some govt stuff was... and TSA came up. One of the guys (young guy, around 30-ish) said: Ya know... If I were a terriorist, I would travel to the USA, go to college and get a degree, then go through pilot training, and go through the ranks to become an airline pilot legally. Yeah, it may take 10+ years... but it would be totally out of normal suspicion... and when I was in the left seat... nobody would suspect me until it was too late.

    This 'shake everyone down' stuff is SOOO like Germany in the 1930's... I wonder why folks are not smarter to this mess.
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  6. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolperfect View Post
    One of the problems in this business is this.If you are a tech.and it does not matter how good you are. You go to a job and you have a hard time getting answers to problems. Let's say you are there one hour and you get the solution,that one hour of aggravation is more tiring than digging ditches all day.
    Yeah but when you're digging ditches you don't get that "BAMMMMM!" feeling when you solve a real ***** of a problem and the equipment is back up and running. I love that feeling.

  7. #59
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    Quitting hvac to drive a truck..

    Tired of coming home with a sore back.. Thinking I could sit on my but and drive a truck and make just about as much.. Plus I would not have to waste money replacing and buying tools.. Has anyone driven a truck for a living before...

  8. #60
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    Never drove professionally for a living but learned how to drive tractor trailer while in the military. It was a great learning experience and payed off as I could volunteer to take those 2 or 4 day trips away from base to haul what they needed and I could get away from the every day boredom. Any short term TDY was great time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmiles View Post
    Tired of coming home with a sore back.. Thinking I could sit on my but and drive a truck and make just about as much.. Plus I would not have to waste money replacing and buying tools.. Has anyone driven a truck for a living before...

    I guess you don't want to be home for over a week at a time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmiles View Post
    Tired of coming home with a sore back.. Thinking I could sit on my but and drive a truck and make just about as much.. Plus I would not have to waste money replacing and buying tools.. Has anyone driven a truck for a living before...
    My dad drove for 15 years...he doesn't have many health issues that I know of but I rarely saw him growing up and when I did it was because I went on the road with him for weeks at a time, but there are ways to drive and be home every weekend or sometimes every night.

    Get ready for lots of fried food, cheap hotels, sitting around waiting on a load or store to open, and lots of stress...plus you have to deal with lots of people...many of those people are flying down the interstate riding your rear or cutting you off.

    It's not all bad though...you get paid to travel the country and see the things that you used to have to pay for, and you are pretty much solo which I enjoy.

    Try to work for a company that has the computers in the truck...makes it a lot easier, and you're not on the phone with dispatch all the time.

  11. #63
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    Job Dissatisfaction

    I hear what you are saying about being tied of the B.S. at your job. Another poster said it "There is BS with every job" and boy I know this first hand. I have a low tolerance for B.S. and have walked out on day three of a $20/hr job more than once.

    What I have learned is find out what makes you tick and develop it. For me it was being able to satisfy a creative desire. I found when i felt like I was stuck in a dead end job my tolerance level dropped to zero.

    I started my own business, not so much for the money, but more so that I could create, investigate and learn knew things. I am still in HVAC and I deal with a lot of B.S., but my tolerance level is way high now.

    Just my two cents

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  12. #64
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    "the grass is always greener". I have a bunch of friends with college degrees and I make more, much more. Most guys normally do. If it was easy everyone would do it.

    I think there is much more of a reward in our industry than others. Ever go into a building with 100s of people screaming that the AC doesnt work, you are there for 20 min find the problem and fix it? Next thing you know as you are walking out the door half the women would carry your child because they are so happy. Been in a number of food processing plants that hand you cases of whatever product they make because they are so happy you found the problem and fixed it, so they give you something as a sign of their gratitude. Not many other occupations do this.

    So often I had a great view ontop of a 7 story building all by myself fixing equipment. Now I am in the management side and turning wrenches beats that anyday of the week.

    I actually had a chance to get out and replace a compressor today on a liebert unit today and man that was fun.

    Every industry has its moments.

    I will admit I have my moments as well, I usually fix that with a few beers and vodka.

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    I find I get bored sometimes. When that happens, I'll try to get into something new but I love this trade.

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