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  1. #92
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    Dreaming about the past and utopian ideals is a main trait of Liberalism

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    To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Glenn, until the past couple of years, the 1950's were the worst years for growth in government. labor unions were at their highest numbers and FDR's socialist programs had just got a foothold. Everything that is bad about government today comes from what happened in the 1950s.

    Yes, you were allowed to be more of a racist back then, but that is not a good thing for most Americans, just to a relatively few who think they are better then others because of their ethnic background.
    Don't know where you coming from robo? The government has been growing ever since the end of the civil war and the loss of "States Rights". The 50's had high employment anyone who wanted to work could get a job. We didn't have a huge welfare class.

    Most kids were born in households with a married couple. Crime was very low, food was cheap. The country had high morals, you didn't have to watch your kids 24/7 they were safe in most neighborhoods. You name it everything was better.

    The real growth of the federal government came during the mid 60's with LBJ's Marxist "Great Society" and all the laws passed then and the changing of our immigration laws. Yeah the 50's saw the end to a practicing Christian country.

    Now you always like to interject race in to everything especially on my posts. I wish you would stop being so divisive and argumentative. Seems like you always have a bone to pick. Cool it.

    I don't considered myself better than anyone else based on their ethnic background so please lighten up. The 50's were the best in most areas IMO and you are entitled to your own opinion. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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    yeah, why you gotta be so racist? Trash comes in all colors.
    Statistically more of certain colors may be on welfare and in jail. That is okay to reference as it is a statistic. Course, there are a awful lot of white colors that will forever suck the system dry as well. it isn't a color thing its a mentality thing.
    What is unfortunate is all these morons will always be sucking off the state or in jail. It is a generational, bleed the system for all it is worth thing. Probably promoted by government since the more of them that exist, the more social programs exist, the bigger the government can grow. And hey, they vote for bigger government since they depend on it.
    i gave up thinking about that stuff when they started helping crack addicts on the government tab. The one chance we had to let natural selection clean up the sewers and the government steps in with free drug programs costing millions. well "we dont want them to overdose".

    i got ask "why not let them overdose?"
    suppose. what else you want all these people to do?
    what else do you expect them to do? Get a job? Generational, mommy was on state, daddy ran away, who is my daddy?
    Dont matter, the monthly check still comes in and the government gives me free housing. Got to go see bobby at the state pen this weekend and make sure we get our free food next. Hope the landlord doesn't mind we dont have the sixty bucks to pay him for the rent, since the state covers the other seven hundred he probably wouldnt care....

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Don't know where you coming from robo? The government has been growing ever since the end of the civil war and the loss of "States Rights". The 50's had high employment anyone who wanted to work could get a job. We didn't have a huge welfare class.

    Most kids were born in households with a married couple. Crime was very low, food was cheap. The country had high morals, you didn't have to watch your kids 24/7 they were safe in most neighborhoods. You name it everything was better.

    The real growth of the federal government came during the mid 60's with LBJ's Marxist "Great Society" and all the laws passed then and the changing of our immigration laws. Yeah the 50's saw the end to a practicing Christian country.

    Now you always like to interject race in to everything especially on my posts. I wish you would stop being so divisive and argumentative. Seems like you always have a bone to pick. Cool it.

    I don't considered myself better than anyone else based on their ethnic background so please lighten up. The 50's were the best in most areas IMO and you are entitled to your own opinion. Thank you, thank you very much
    The 50s were the golden years for employment and increased quality of life, unemployment was low, so for growth to continue extra man power was required.
    At that time the world had not rebuilt after WW2, the world was the export market for USA products and knowledge. (remember that the USA mainland was not directly effected by WW2)
    As the world did start to rebuild, then production shifted! Take Japan and Germany, they had advantages many fold, the latest production equipment, Better infrastructure and the next to zero cost of having (or not) of a military force.
    You imagine what the States would be like if all the resources that went into the military, went to civil or populous based ventures.
    As far as values go, it is circumstance that has changes these, more than them changing for changes sake!

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    Thanks barbar at least two of us know the truth. In addition to what you said we spent billions on rebuilding Western Europe and Japan with the Marshall Plan out of our generosity when we could have basically owned the whole world. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Thanks barbar at least two of us know the truth. In addition to what you said we spent billions on rebuilding Western Europe and Japan with the Marshall Plan out of our generosity when we could have basically owned the whole world. Thank you, thank you very much
    It is always difficult to know what would of a happened. Yes the States, did give with generosity, but it would be nice to know how much the states got back, not direct payments, but in the value of exports and influence.
    If we look at the immigrants that were requested, by Britain (I know) and sound like the USA, they did come from a different culture. All this OK when business was booming, all were relativity happy. I am for when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Many immigrants struggled with this, then children are born. These children are now Romans but with a mixed understanding of what Romans should be. And that is where we are today.
    If you look at the Wealth Middle East (not talking about religion) They going through a similar Boom time similar to what the west went through in the 50s, the difference being, is that they have limited permanent immigrants, they just employ workers from abroad, and flick back to their home country when no longer required. So it is unlikely they will have the same culture shock/unemployment issues in the future .

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Thanks barbar at least two of us know the truth. In addition to what you said we spent billions on rebuilding Western Europe and Japan with the Marshall Plan out of our generosity when we could have basically owned the whole world. Thank you, thank you very much
    Good to see you cuddling up with a leftist foreigner, Glenn. You can come completely out of that closet if you really try.....
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Good to see you cuddling up with a leftist foreigner, Glenn. You can come completely out of that closet if you really try.....
    Funny robo when someone has a different opinion than yours and you can't win your argument against then then you resort to making unfounded personal attacks. How pitiful. You have been doing this a lot lately. Your pushing it robo. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    Funny robo when someone has a different opinion than yours and you can't win your argument against then then you resort to making unfounded personal attacks. How pitiful. You have been doing this a lot lately. Your pushing it robo. Thank you, thank you very much
    I'm not attacking you, Glenn. I've been saying that you are really a closet leftist pretending to be a conservative racist for quite some time....
    Government is a disease...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Good to see you cuddling up with a leftist foreigner, Glenn. You can come completely out of that closet if you really try.....
    Hey Robo
    can you please address me correctly!!!!!!!!!!

    "Mr Small Minded Commie Satanic Alien Barsterward"

    cheers big ears!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    I'm not attacking you, Glenn. I've been sayin that you are really a closet leftist pretending to be a conservative racist for quite some time....
    What you are saying is complete BS and false. Snow me one post where I have ever taken a leftest position on anything or for that matter where I have made a "racist" post.

    Post your proof and stop your false statements on my beliefs and character. You are the one who has leftest views and your assumption that Zimmerman is guilty of a crime is one of them which comes to mind.

    Leftists including those on this form have the same guilty view as you do. The rest of us want to see the evidence first. I consider your false accusations slander with or without your "" so please cut the BS and cease and desist your negative posts on me and my character. I don't find them funny. I'll say again with "friends" like you I sure don't need enemies.

    I only reply to your posts when you address me and lately it has all been negative. I would appreciate you doing the same at least until you get off this blast Glenn campain you are on as this is getting old. Thank you, thank you very much
    Last edited by glennac; 04-16-2012 at 07:17 AM.
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

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    I've known for quite some time that Glen was a mole planted by Gawker to imitate a conservative

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