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  1. #14
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    thanx, Mechanically Inclined.

    makes sense, now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indy2000 View Post
    thanx, Mechanically Inclined.

    makes sense, now.
    Does the Local Union is your area refer to HVACR Repair & Maintenance Service as MES? Or are you familiar w/any one of the National agreements? Local Union terminology can be very confusing, some might call you a Building Trades RefrigerationFitter Jm even tho you may never worked on a construction site! Some might call you an A Card. Some might call you an R1. Some might call you an MES Jm even tho you're not under any National agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicallyInclined View Post
    Does the Local Union is your area refer to HVACR Repair & Maintenance Service as MES? .
    nope.

    my ticket says, Refrigeration mechanic. local 516

    we don't have those 'classes'

    everybody in our local, are expected to be able to work from fractional to 200+ Ton chillers.

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    My card says "BTJ Pipefitter Refrigeration" a.k.a. RefrigerationFitter, even tho I've never been on a construction site or worked on a team under a BT Foreman! I've always been Union under the National agreements (MES), Honeywell, Carrier & York/Johnson Controls. I only know about the Local Albuquerque agreement from reading it, not from working under it. We'd only revert to it for Jm scale & things like holiday designations, on-call pay and tools provisions.

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    After careful consideration, this position wouldn't be competative, pay wise, to a Union company in the Boston area, as an Sm 1 (80% of Jm) would do about $77K/Yr. & an Sm 2 would do even higher. Not that bad for CT & RI tho.

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    hope to hear a response from the original poster on your findings.

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    55,000-65,000 how is this competitive lol union journeyman service tech makes 36.00 hour thats 75,000 a year not including benefits good luck with finding a good tech for 25.00 hour in ny doing commercial work

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    Quote Originally Posted by raven22 View Post
    55,000-65,000 how is this competitive lol union journeyman service tech makes 36.00 hour thats 75,000 a year not including benefits good luck with finding a good tech for 25.00 hour in ny doing commercial work
    I think $48/Hr. for HVACR Jm is more like it, in NYC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MechanicallyInclined View Post
    I think $48/Hr. for HVACR Jm is more like it, in NYC.
    well i mean just becoming journyman yea if you have more than 5 years experience A guys make more

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    If you're doing light commercial Air Conditioning, ask for 65%-75% of HVACR Jm equivalent. If you're doing commercial Refrigeration, ask for 70%-80% of HVACR Jm. If you're doing Chillers, ask for HVACR Jm equivalent. If you're working for less (so what if it's non-Union), you're selling yourself short.

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