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    Texas cities for Newbies?

    Last September I went to an intensive 2 week school which was an awesome Experience. The school was Lindsay-Cooper in Irving, Texas. Anyhow, I am in refresher mode and reading my HVAC textbook everyday to get back up to speed and ready to tackle any job that comes my way. I am now in Colorado and moving to a city in Texas to get a real HVAC job and gain the experience that is necessary to be a seasoned HVAC Technician. The city I am thinking of Moving to is San Antonio or possibly Austin or Houston. I am getting my EPA Certification as soon as I get back to Texas. I have all my own tools. Does anyone have any advice on what cities are good to find a HVAC job? And what traits does an employer look for when hiring graduates? What would be a good entry-level wage?
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    you need to know that an entry level job is having to work form the ground up it will take time to learn all the in and outs off this trade and wage depents on what you cant do for the boss to keep in business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seemungaln View Post
    you need to know that an entry level job is having to work form the ground up it will take time to learn all the in and outs off this trade and wage depents on what you cant do for the boss to keep in business.
    You mean going to school for 2 weeks six months ago isn't enough?

    Entry level wages vary across the country. I would say minimum wage-13 or 14 bucks an hour depending on location and experience
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    going to school two weeks is not going to kick it in thei trade. why you dont have the type of info you need to have as per say some one with 6-24 months of schooling textbooking trainning is not all handon count been there done that and as a mech you always learning sonething new everyday in life.

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    In the school I learned the basics so I have a clue about the refrigeration, electrical control system, charging and evacuating a system, etc. Im by no means a licensed technician but I am light years ahead of knowing what I knew before. And I do have the confidence to diagnose a system and troubleshoot components, etc. They say you can't go wrong with A/C in Texas during the summer. But it is definetly time to refresh my memory because it is my goal to gain serious HVAC experience this summer. All these terms like Superheat, subcool, pull a vacuum, ohms, phase, R-410 are lingering in my brain trying to remember what they said 6 months ago.

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    San Antonio, Austin or Houston are all good choices. Dallas is full from the last 5 classes at Linsay-Cooper.

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    Yeah. That school is in high demand. When I was there they taught classes 7 days a week. English and Spanish.

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    Folks can go to a 2 or 3 or 4 year tech school course... and STILL they hire on as beginners, at beginner wages.

    There is NO substitution for lots of on the job experience in this field... and IMO no amount of schooling will teach one what a few years on the job will.

    It is no surprise most states require 4 years of verifiable full time employment to qualify to test for a license in heating and AC. The reason: It takes that long to learn it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    It is no surprise most states require 4 years of verifiable full time employment to qualify to test for a license in heating and AC. The reason: It takes that long to learn it...
    If you have a strong mechanical aptitude, it will take at least 4-5 years to be "competent". 10 years to be "good", and 15 years to a lifetime to be "one of the best". Even then, only a select few actually qualify. There are also people with 30+ years in the trade who are barely "competent".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    If you have a strong mechanical aptitude, it will take at least 4-5 years to be "competent". 10 years to be "good", and 15 years to a lifetime to be "one of the best". Even then, only a select few actually qualify. There are also people with 30+ years in the trade who are barely "competent".
    Whatever!!!! This stuff ain''t rocket science, get off the cross we need the wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech View Post
    Folks can go to a 2 or 3 or 4 year tech school course... and STILL they hire on as beginners, at beginner wages.

    There is NO substitution for lots of on the job experience in this field... and IMO no amount of schooling will teach one what a few years on the job will.

    It is no surprise most states require 4 years of verifiable full time employment to qualify to test for a license in heating and AC. The reason: It takes that long to learn it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech Rob View Post
    If you have a strong mechanical aptitude, it will take at least 4-5 years to be "competent". 10 years to be "good", and 15 years to a lifetime to be "one of the best". Even then, only a select few actually qualify. There are also people with 30+ years in the trade who are barely "competent".
    Quote Originally Posted by keeplearnin View Post
    Whatever!!!! This stuff ain''t rocket science, get off the cross we need the wood.
    In my sometimes not so humble opinion (IMNHO); we may have an example of the difference between someone that knows the basics well enough to get by... and someone that TRULY knows the details. (Nothing personal is intended by this post, simply making an example of attitudes towards the work).

    Now which one would each of us want doing their service work, repairs, or installation... and why?
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    Knowledge is great, but desire, drive and effort to be better makes a world of difference.

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    I'm in Austin. So you're experience level is 2 weeks of school? Any field training? You will most likely start out as an installers helper making $10/hr or so and will get worked like a mule. It will test you mentally and physically. Mostly physically. 140 degrees in an attic for 2-3 changeouts a day physical, working til midnight. Depending on who you work for. I hope you're in good shape and can put up with lots of crap. There are a million guys here who try the job out and get their asses kicked. That is where the mental toughness comes in . You gotta put up with the BS, keep a positive attitude and bust ass. If you're a good helper and pick up stuff quick and your leadman isn't a prick that just wants a grunt and actually teaches you something. You can move up to lead installer where you have to prove yourself once again and within 2 years or so maybe be a tech. If they don't lay you off when it starts cooling off in October. You gotta stand out. I don't want to burst your bubble, because it seems like you have a Tebow attitude. But you don't know squat and don't have much value with 2 weeks of schooling honestly. Good luck. You've got a hard 2-3 years in front of you. Stay out of San Antonio or Houston for reasons I won't go into here.
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