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  1. #14
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    Not to get my feet too deep in the muck, but Rush contradicts his argument a number of times. Also his claim that there will not be any employer-provided coverage sounds hollow from up here as most companies up here offer their employees health plans. Now how could that be, a country that has had socialized health care for 40+ years?
    Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. —Mark Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigma View Post
    Let's watch on CNN, the Fareed Zakaria Special - "Global Lessons: The GPS Roadmap for Saving Health Care" Sunday night at 8 Eastern.
    I always say that we are not alone in this world and some times it is worth to check how other people deal with the same problems.
    I like health care in Taiwan. Very little paper work, doctors don't charge arm and leg, and they get bonuses for making patients chose the healthy lifestyle.
    Here doctors get bonuses from drug manufacturers for pushing their products instead pushing physical fitness, right diet and quitting cigarettes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennac View Post
    I haven't caught him [Rush] at one lie…
    And you won't catch lawyers lying in the courtroom either, but you will find them bending the truth while grossly misrepresenting the opposing party. Rush is no different. He is way to slick to be caught in an outright lie. That’s why most politician types are lawyers [undetectable liars] first.

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    This package that was passed by our elected leaders in not about health care. And obama is not that intelligent to have invented and authored this monstrosity nor are the members of congress.

    This 2,000 plus pages of double talk has been in the works for years and has been lurking in the background for the right time of introduction. And the new nation of obama supporters who primarily believe that some form of "something" is out there that is suppose to take care of them presented the ideal time for this intravenous injection of this monstrosity.

    Notice that "it" came from no where, was introduced without much investigation of its background and sources and was easily passed through all the entry gates without one person actually willing to acknowledge that they not only read the whole thing but understand what is in the documents of endless double talk.

    Within the documents are tons of other subjects that give this plan the legal right and authority to control such things as college finance programs as just one example. Yet no one questions any of this and it's still presented as a health care plan.

    It's actually a virus that has been interjected into the basic form of our judicial, executive and administrave branches of our Federal Government at a point, time and method where removing it is almost impossible.

    Focusing on the heath care portion is just a way of taking the spot light off of what it's true meaning is..and that is to give the leader of our Federal Government and what he/she stands for the powers and authorities to do what they please...and that is to reduce the strength of the US to a secondary position and to control the few citizens that might catch on to what is actually happening right under all of our feet.

    As portions of this plan come into place then we will see and feel the results of our loss of liberties and strength as individuals, communities, states and as a nation.

    Meanwhile, as part of the plan, if they can keep us arguing among ourselves this only facilitates the focus and time tables of spreading the implanted viruses into all sections of our society.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
    - Alexis de Toqueville, 1835

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