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    A freezer - can I just eliminate the thermostat?

    Sears chest freezer. R-134. It's about six feet long. Electronic temperature readout and a little microprocessor to run everything. That all went south just as a food delivery was arriving. So I ran out, knew nothing about the control system so I installed a Supco 1/2 HP 3 n 1 kit on the compressor and wired the kit to the power cord.

    I don't know where to get all the controls and don't have a lot of interest in finding out. I was going to put an ETC on the wall and have it power a controlled outlet to plug the freezer into. Drape the ETC probe inside the freezer for sensing.

    But now I have the question: What do you think will happen if I just let it run all the time? <g> Eventually the suction pressure will balance the heat load and it will just sit there running.

    What do you all think of that idea?
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    It would probably cost the crap out of you to run it 24/7. Would be comparable to running a small window AC all the time.

    Can you not take the controls out and just put in a regular old freezer t-stat off a True or similar?

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    I've done it on a temporary basis without problems. Is there a defrost built into the microprocessor that you no longer have? Also if it's for ice cream it will be too difficult to scoop.
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    I don't know what the food is but probably hot dogs and fries

    I don't know what the food is but probably hot dogs and fries. It's a little hot dog and rootbeer place.

    My feeling is that the chest freezer is manual defrost. There is a drain in the bottom of the case and the coils are in the walls. I can't see how it could have automatic defrost.

    And what the hell - not it don't! <g>

    I guess I'll mounts an ETC on the wall and power a separate "freezer receptacle" through the ETC contacts.

    I just don't feel like it - I have been dragging my ass around for a week. Like a friggin zombie all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2sac View Post
    I've done it on a temporary basis without problems. Is there a defrost built into the microprocessor that you no longer have? Also if it's for ice cream it will be too difficult to scoop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    - I have been dragging my ass around for a week. Like a friggin zombie all the time.
    try u some red bull

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    Isn't Red Bull an artificial stimulant? Like coffee?

    Isn't Red Bull an artificial stimulant? Like coffee? Except that it tastes like dog poo instead of yummy coffee? <g>

    I used to drink something every day that was green, Spirulina and a bunch a veggie things in it. My son just reminded me of that tonight when I made the same complaint to him. I had forgotten all about it - but it was Great stuff. But now I can Not remember the damned name! <g>

    It's such a shame that cocaine got so expensive now. Although it probably wasn't healthy anyway. Always made for a very productive day though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmira View Post
    try u some red bull
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    red bull goes well with vodka

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    Isn't that like a goofball or speedball ?

    Like heroin and meth?

    Well; from what I understand anyway. <g>

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvac wiz 79 View Post
    red bull goes well with vodka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    But now I have the question: What do you think will happen if I just let it run all the time?
    The evap will turn to a chunk of ice eventually.

    Have an old def time clock laying around ??

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    The defrost timer idea is great. Those little chest freezers run 90%. That Supco start relay will be toast within 6 mo.

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    Not that im not a fan of easier controls and ones we're used to, but why not just take the model and serial and go to a Sears parts store. If they dont have it, they can get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLZ Dan View Post
    Not that im not a fan of easier controls and ones we're used to, but why not just take the model and serial and go to a Sears parts store. If they dont have it, they can get it.
    That would be the sissyboy way out .... we are re-inventing the wheel like a man!

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    If its not frost free it will be a chunk of ice anyway.

    Id just order the parts. If you dont want to, put a walk in freezer stat in it(probably cost as much or more than the correct parts though).

    Defrost timer would be a waste of money. By the time the ice melted the food would be soft and youd have a swimming pool and a skating rink in the bottom of the chest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    ...I guess I'll mounts an ETC on the wall and power a separate "freezer receptacle" through the ETC contacts.

    I just don't feel like it - I have been dragging my ass around for a week. Like a friggin zombie all the time.
    Considering your current state of mind...

    If you decide to mount a thermostat on the outside wall, remember there are condenser tubes attached to the inside.

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    That Is a good idea -

    Sears
    M. # 263.16592100
    S. # WB64329887

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    Quote Originally Posted by DLZ Dan View Post
    Not that im not a fan of easier controls and ones we're used to, but why not just take the model and serial and go to a Sears parts store. If they dont have it, they can get it.
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    No -the wall of the store <g>

    Put an open-back handy box over the present receptacle - to extend it out. A box offset from it to another handy box for the controlled receptacle, and then another box offset to the ETC. Leave the freezer hard-wired and plug it into the controlled receptacle. Twenty minutes and I don't have to lay on the greasy floor and dick around with some miniature electronic Chinese horse**** control to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icemeister View Post
    Considering your current state of mind...

    If you decide to mount a thermostat on the outside wall, remember there are condenser tubes attached to the inside.
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    Nake Juice-Green machine is good stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poodle Head Mikey View Post
    Sears
    M. # 263.16592100
    S. # WB64329887

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    Go to sears.com
    model # is 253, not 263. part sells for $88.53
    If you run it all the time,your ice cream will be a brick.

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    been try many times use custom parts to make it work, but in the long run find out the <some times the correct parts are cost less and get it done right !>worry free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackmira View Post
    Nake Juice-Green machine is good stuff


    yes it is, tastes ok too
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