Hard start kit opinions.

[timebuilder]

so I meter the start caps when diagnosing and find some of them bad, I sometimes reuse the existing pot relay and just change the cap. Keep some in my van. Usually the relay is still good. Anyone object to this, I am talking about getting a compressor up and running when it just won't start.......meter goes up and then down on a start cap, I crimp a terminal end on the resistor and reconnect to the terminal when done. What would happen if the resistor was left unattached?

Here you go!

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=467142

[Mille Racer 69]

I have freed up seized comressors with 5-2-1
I started a comparison thread last summer and put down all my findings.
the kickstart came in 2nd place

[Metroman]

I use 5-2-1 or kickstart.

[John Markl]

A "true" 5-2-1 is the way to go.

CSR U-1 and U-2 are stock items in the trucks.

The Supco SPP6 was also a favorite for years. The caveat was, that you needed to add a delay-on-break timer to use them.

The advent of digital thermostats with built-in delay solved that issue.

A Supco has to cool/reset after use. A true 5-2-1 does not.

Kickstarts are only two wire. We had a case of them, and rewired them all as three wire before using them.

[xpuser357]

so I meter the start caps when diagnosing and find some of them bad, I sometimes reuse the existing pot relay and just change the cap. Keep some in my van. Usually the relay is still good. Anyone object to this, I am talking about getting a compressor up and running when it just won't start.......meter goes up and then down on a start cap, I crimp a terminal end on the resistor and reconnect to the terminal when done. What would happen if the resistor was left unattached?

I alway`s change relay with start cap. Do you tear open relay to look at points?
usually relay destroys cap by sticking

[JWB]

Here you go!

http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=467142

Thank you sir!

[timebuilder]

Thank you sir!

My pleasure.

Believe it or not, that popped up on Google. It's everywhere!!!!!

[Glenn Harrison]

Glennhvac,

Johnstone (Gurnee and Niles) and Berkheimer (Arlington Heights and Niles) carry all three sizes of the 5-2-1 kits.

Note the CSR U3 is specifically sized for 4 and 5 ton SCROLL compressors.

I also have attached a Bulletin from Copeland listing approved sizes of Start Capacitors for different size Scroll Compressors.

http://www.five-two-one.com/faq.htm

From glennhvacman in the NW burbs.

[Glennhvac]

Glennhvac,

Johnstone (Gurnee and Niles) and Berkheimer (Arlington Heights and Niles) carry all three sizes of the 5-2-1 kits.

Note the CSR U3 is specifically sized for 4 and 5 ton SCROLL compressors.

I also have attached a Bulletin from Copeland listing approved sizes of Start Capacitors for different size Scroll Compressors.

http://www.five-two-one.com/faq.htm

From glennhvacman in the NW burbs.

Hey thanks neighbor. I could not find them on Johnstone site and just started looking around over the weekend. I did see them at Berk catalog last night. Thanks! We have probably crossed paths someplace

[Glenn Harrison]

I'm sure we have.

By the way, Johnstone:

http://www.johnstonesupply.com/store...2-1&sub=search