New condenser? What would you do?

[coilcleaner]

Customer calls says his condenser has blown compressor needs new one. {Cond that is}
Do you try and sell him on entire unit inside and out because his is twelve yrs old?
Do you just go along with him and install new cond?
Do you refuse job if he just wants new cond. that will be attached too old orifice controlled coil?

[John Markl]

I have about a dozen R-22 and dry-22 units in stock.

I'll take his munny....

[coilcleaner]

Thanks Mr. Markl I concur.

[dgunt]

Depending on what he wants to spend for money. I would try and sell him on a whole new system but if the money isn't there then get a dry R-22. Always nice to start with a fresh new system. It would be better for him in the long run also with the new system being for efficient.

[flanders]

As the pro, inform the customer of all his options, and let him make the decision.

[hvac wiz 79]

he diagnosed his own compressor? . .

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[Blackmer]

At the price of r22 you can almost buy the air handler for what it will cost to charge the dry r22 condenser. And the home owner will still have a r22 system that will cost more in the long run just my opinion.

[coilcleaner]

he diagnosed his own compressor? . .

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Its not hard to do when it blows a terminal. Some are a little more experienced than others.

[coilcleaner]

At the price of r22 you can almost buy the air handler for what it will cost to charge the dry r22 condenser. And the home owner will still have a r22 system that will cost more in the long run just my opinion.

Not at what I would charge him.

[mgenius33]

Well, taking the time to explain the benefits of a new system may swing his decision. If he doesn't have the information, then you're not doing your job. What happens 2 years down the road and he needs a refrigerant repair, when the cost of r22 quadruples.
He might think a new cond unit will improve his utility bills, just because it's new.
Just because you don't see benefits doesn't mean the consumer won't.
Of course if you've made the attempt to educate him, and he doesn't want to hear it, then give him what he wants.

[kdean1]

I would give him a price for a dry unit, filter/drier, refrigerant and labor. I'd also tell him the warranty is on the condenser alone, NOT on the indoor unit. I'd also give him a price for a complete R410-A system and let the customer make his own decision.
If it was for a family member I'd try to convince them that committing to R-22 for the next 10 years is a poor idea.

[John Markl]

At the price of r22 you can almost buy the air handler for what it will cost to charge the dry r22 condenser. .

Say WHAT ?

[hvac wiz 79]

Its not hard to do when it blows a terminal. Some are a little more experienced than others.

haha .. yea that explains .. id sell him what his pockets can afford but id explain the different angles

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