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    Let go...... me lucky charms.....

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    Out of all that I've ever read about who obama is and what he actually represents this gentleman hit the nail on the head. He wrote this piece within the first year of obama, I'm pretty sure.

    Subject: FW: A thought provoking piece on our President

    Subject: A THOUGHT PROVOKING PIECE ON OUR PRESIDENT

    I've watched him on Fox, sort of a "different" kind of thinker; more thoughtful, perhaps.

    Charles Krauthammer Speech/ Comments on the 'New Economy' & Barack Obama'

    To my friends & associates:
    Last Monday was a profound evening, hearing Dr. Charles Krauthammer speak to the Center
    for the American Experiment. He is a brilliant intellectual, seasoned and articulate.
    He is forthright and careful in his analysis, and never resorts to emotions or personal
    insults. He is NOT a fearmonger nor an extremist in his comments and views. He is a fiscal
    conservative, and has a Pulitzer prize for writing. He is a frequent contributor to Fox
    News and writes weekly for the Washington Post. The entire room was held spellbound
    during his talk. I have shared this with many of you and several have asked me to
    summarize his comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically and
    internationally. Even two Democrats at my table agreed with everything he said!
    If you feel like forwarding this to those who are open minded and have
    not 'drunk the Kool-Aid', feel free.

    Here is his resume from Wikipedia:

    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer>

    A summary of his comments:

    1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be underestimated. He is
    a 'cool customer' who doesn't show his emotions. It's very hard to know what's 'behind the mask'.
    Taking down the Clinton dynasty from a political neophyte was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons
    still do not understand what hit them. Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.

    2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan & Clinton.He has a way of making you think
    he's on your side, agreeing with your p osition, while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what
    he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!

    3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself,
    but rather to change everything, including dismantling capitalism. He can't be straightforward on
    his ambitions, as the public would not go along. He has a heavy hand, and wants to 'level the playing
    field' with income redistribution and punishment of the achievers of society. He would like to model
    the USA after Great Britain or Canada.

    4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, & NATIONAL HEALTHCARE by the
    Federal government. He doesn't care about the auto or financial services industries, but got them
    as an early bonus. The cap & trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth. Paying for FREE
    college education is his goal. Most scary is healthcare program, because if you make it FREE and
    add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof.
    The only way to control costs is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada; God forbid.

    5. He's surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types. No one around him has ever
    run even a candy store. But they're going to try and run the auto, financial, banking and
    other industries. This obviously can't work in the long run. Obama's not a socialist; rather
    a far-left secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate, but
    will govern from the hard left. Again, watch what he does, not what he says.

    6. Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the USA, more as a ruler over the world.
    He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate and coordinate various countries and their
    20 agendas. He sees moral equivilency in all cultures. His apology tour in Germany & England
    was a prime example of how he sees America, as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant,
    rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors. This is the first President
    ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies.

    7. He's now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (and pain) will not 'come due' until
    after he's reelected in 2012. He'd like to blame all problems on Bush from the past, and
    hopefully his successor in the future. He has a huge ego, and Mr. Krauthammer believes he
    is a narcissist.

    8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong. We're 'pining'
    for another Reagan, but there'll never be another like him. He believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty
    and Bobby Jindahl (except for his terrible speech in Feb.) are the future of the party. Newt Gingrich
    is brilliant, but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere and intelligent, but needs to really be
    seriously boning up on facts and info if she's to be a serious candidate in the future. We need
    to return to the party of lower taxes, smaller govt., personal responsibility, strong national
    defense, and states' rights.

    9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous. We're spending trillions
    that we don't have. This could lead to hyper inflation, depression or worse. No country has
    ever spent themselves into prosperity;The media is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a pass because
    they love their agenda. But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the huge
    bailouts didn't work, nor will the stimulus package. These were trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama's
    allies, unions and the Congress to placate the left, so he can get support for #4 above.

    10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed. Fear and panic swept in,
    we had an unpopular President, and the war was grinding on indefinitely without a clear out come.
    The people are in pain, and the mantra of 'change' caused people to act emotionally. Any Democrat
    would have won this election; it was surprising that it was as close as it was.

    11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be swept back into power.
    If it's under 8 %, the Democrats continue to roll. If it's between 8-10%, it'll be a dogfight.
    It'll all be about the economy.

    I hope this gets you really thinking about what's happening in Washington and Congress. There's
    a left-wing revolution going on, according to Krauthammer, and he encourages us to keep the
    faith and join the loyal resistance. The work will be hard, but we're right on most issues
    and can reclaim our country, before it's far too late.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
    - Alexis de Toqueville, 1835

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    Having control of the media, Obama will spin the unemployment numbers or any numbers for that matter, to suit his campaign and re-election.

    Obama is the Anti Christ...like the movie The Omen...but a Chi town half negroid version.
    To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.
    -- Confucius

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    Or, for something completely different;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=WH_a0cGVRmI#!
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
    - Alexis de Toqueville, 1835

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    Or, for something completely different;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=WH_a0cGVRmI#!
    LMAO!
    To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.
    -- Confucius

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    Out of all that I've ever read about who obama is and what he actually represents this gentleman hit the nail on the head. He wrote this piece within the first year of obama, I'm pretty sure.

    Subject: FW: A thought provoking piece on our President

    Subject: A THOUGHT PROVOKING PIECE ON OUR PRESIDENT

    I've watched him on Fox, sort of a "different" kind of thinker; more thoughtful, perhaps.

    Charles Krauthammer Speech/ Comments on the 'New Economy' & Barack Obama'

    To my friends & associates:
    Last Monday was a profound evening, hearing Dr. Charles Krauthammer speak to the Center
    for the American Experiment. He is a brilliant intellectual, seasoned and articulate.
    He is forthright and careful in his analysis, and never resorts to emotions or personal
    insults. He is NOT a fearmonger nor an extremist in his comments and views. He is a fiscal
    conservative, and has a Pulitzer prize for writing. He is a frequent contributor to Fox
    News and writes weekly for the Washington Post. The entire room was held spellbound
    during his talk. I have shared this with many of you and several have asked me to
    summarize his comments, as we are living in uncharted waters economically and
    internationally. Even two Democrats at my table agreed with everything he said!
    If you feel like forwarding this to those who are open minded and have
    not 'drunk the Kool-Aid', feel free.

    Here is his resume from Wikipedia:

    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Krauthammer>

    A summary of his comments:

    1. Mr. Obama is a very intellectual, charming individual. He is not to be underestimated. He is
    a 'cool customer' who doesn't show his emotions. It's very hard to know what's 'behind the mask'.
    Taking down the Clinton dynasty from a political neophyte was an amazing accomplishment. The Clintons
    still do not understand what hit them. Obama was in the perfect place at the perfect time.

    2. Obama has political skills comparable to Reagan & Clinton.He has a way of making you think
    he's on your side, agreeing with your p osition, while doing the opposite. Pay no attention to what
    he SAYS; rather, watch what he DOES!

    3. Obama has a ruthless quest for power. He did not come to Washington to make something out of himself,
    but rather to change everything, including dismantling capitalism. He can't be straightforward on
    his ambitions, as the public would not go along. He has a heavy hand, and wants to 'level the playing
    field' with income redistribution and punishment of the achievers of society. He would like to model
    the USA after Great Britain or Canada.

    4. His three main goals are to control ENERGY, PUBLIC EDUCATION, & NATIONAL HEALTHCARE by the
    Federal government. He doesn't care about the auto or financial services industries, but got them
    as an early bonus. The cap & trade will add costs to everything and stifle growth. Paying for FREE
    college education is his goal. Most scary is healthcare program, because if you make it FREE and
    add 46,000,000 people to a Medicare-type single-payer system, the costs will go through the roof.
    The only way to control costs is with massive RATIONING of services, like in Canada; God forbid.

    5. He's surrounded himself with mostly far-left academic types. No one around him has ever
    run even a candy store. But they're going to try and run the auto, financial, banking and
    other industries. This obviously can't work in the long run. Obama's not a socialist; rather
    a far-left secular progressive bent on nothing short of revolution. He ran as a moderate, but
    will govern from the hard left. Again, watch what he does, not what he says.

    6. Obama doesn't really see himself as President of the USA, more as a ruler over the world.
    He sees himself above it all, trying to orchestrate and coordinate various countries and their
    20 agendas. He sees moral equivilency in all cultures. His apology tour in Germany & England
    was a prime example of how he sees America, as an imperialist nation that has been arrogant,
    rather than a great noble nation that has at times made errors. This is the first President
    ever who has chastised our allies and appeased our enemies.

    7. He's now handing out goodies. He hopes that the bill (and pain) will not 'come due' until
    after he's reelected in 2012. He'd like to blame all problems on Bush from the past, and
    hopefully his successor in the future. He has a huge ego, and Mr. Krauthammer believes he
    is a narcissist.

    8. Republicans are in the wilderness for a while, but will emerge strong. We're 'pining'
    for another Reagan, but there'll never be another like him. He believes Mitt Romney, Tim Pawlenty
    and Bobby Jindahl (except for his terrible speech in Feb.) are the future of the party. Newt Gingrich
    is brilliant, but has baggage. Sarah Palin is sincere and intelligent, but needs to really be
    seriously boning up on facts and info if she's to be a serious candidate in the future. We need
    to return to the party of lower taxes, smaller govt., personal responsibility, strong national
    defense, and states' rights.

    9. The current level of spending is irresponsible and outrageous. We're spending trillions
    that we don't have. This could lead to hyper inflation, depression or worse. No country has
    ever spent themselves into prosperity;The media is giving Obama, Reid and Pelosi a pass because
    they love their agenda. But eventually the bill will come due and people will realize the huge
    bailouts didn't work, nor will the stimulus package. These were trillion-dollar payoffs to Obama's
    allies, unions and the Congress to placate the left, so he can get support for #4 above.

    10. The election was over in mid-September when Lehman brothers failed. Fear and panic swept in,
    we had an unpopular President, and the war was grinding on indefinitely without a clear out come.
    The people are in pain, and the mantra of 'change' caused people to act emotionally. Any Democrat
    would have won this election; it was surprising that it was as close as it was.

    11. In 2012, if the unemployment rate is over 10%, Republicans will be swept back into power.
    If it's under 8 %, the Democrats continue to roll. If it's between 8-10%, it'll be a dogfight.
    It'll all be about the economy.

    I hope this gets you really thinking about what's happening in Washington and Congress. There's
    a left-wing revolution going on, according to Krauthammer, and he encourages us to keep the
    faith and join the loyal resistance. The work will be hard, but we're right on most issues
    and can reclaim our country, before it's far too late.
    wow, another dregged up email from years ago.......lol

    are you sure you are not GA using another screen name ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by corny View Post
    wow, another dregged up email from years ago.......lol

    are you sure you are not GA using another screen name ???
    The Constitution, Bill of Rights are also dregged up papers from years ago. Should we also consider those not to be of importance since they are more than a week old? Talk about narrow minded.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
    - Alexis de Toqueville, 1835

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    The Constitution, Bill of Rights are also dregged up papers from years ago. Should we also consider those not to be of importance since they are more than a week old? Talk about narrow minded.
    But Delta, the constitution, bill of rights etc.... are not faked writings of someone in the present day..or the past...like this text of a speech is supposed to be.

    Check these things out before you post them. There is plenty of ammo to sling at obama without having to make yourself seem uncredible.

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    I dont point these things out to embarass you.... its just that there have been enough of these fake emails and faked blog posts thrown about that people should know to check on the authenticity and credibility of something that they are going to repeat.

    I only want to help you guys....

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    3175 posts.....woohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooo

    where is my free gift.......Ill take that veto bag.....or cash please

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    Thanks Corny
    Please show me where this gentleman's writing is faked.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
    - Alexis de Toqueville, 1835

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    http://www.americanexperiment.org/pu...ammer-response

    In his own words he states the this letter is an trasalation of his thoughts even though he did not state exactly what was shown.

    He states further that he does not let out what he says at private meetings but that those ideas stated came from an interpertation of the following five articles of his:

    Obama: The Grand Strategy – April 24, 2009

    The Sting, In Four Parts – April 17, 2009

    Obama’s Ultimate Agenda – April 3, 2009

    The Great Non Sequitur – March 6, 2009

    The Obamaist Manifesto – February 27, 2009
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
    - Alexis de Toqueville, 1835

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    http://www.americanexperiment.org/pu...ammer-response

    In his own words he states the this letter is an trasalation of his thoughts even though he did not state exactly what was shown.

    He states further that he does not let out what he says at private meetings but that those ideas stated came from an interpertation of the following five articles of his:

    Obama: The Grand Strategy – April 24, 2009

    The Sting, In Four Parts – April 17, 2009

    Obama’s Ultimate Agenda – April 3, 2009

    The Great Non Sequitur – March 6, 2009

    The Obamaist Manifesto – February 27, 2009
    If you read the articles above (Corny might want to), I think you'll find that Mr. Krauthammer pretty much has Obama summed up pretty well. And, I don't see much difference in what he writes and what the "old" email translated from the speech Mr. Krauthammer gave. The wolf has been exposed, problem is, many don't seem to care, just gimme, gimme, gimme, so it will all be FAIR!

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