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    Quote Originally Posted by GAacTech View Post
    If I vote for Herman Cain, you libs call it a guilt vote. if mitt romney, I'm a suspected "domestic terrorist"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Honkey!
    The last time I heard that George jefferson was calling Archie Bunker one.

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    I love helicopters, and if there are herds of them, I'll be there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coilcleaner View Post
    have some respect for the commander in chief. Every president had it this way since we had high security. I know Im new here but how racist can you be? no dis intended just asking.
    I have total respect for the Office of the Presidency of the United States. And, having servec my time in the protection and support of this country in uniform I have respected each and every President since Truman even if I didn't agree.

    Not agreeing is part of the American experience. We are allowed to do that here.

    But this person and his followers are beyond description. All other Presidents at least supported the Constitution in some basic form and set out to protect this nation.

    This person isn't, won't and doesn't care. His mission is to disassemble the United States into his personal belief of a system ranging from a dictatorship to full class control by his central government into socialism and a few more forms of destructive social systems all detrimental to free entriprise and the protected freedoms that we have had for over 200 years.

    Now, ironically, if you think my post is racist then follow along to my other recent posting regarding his majesties recent ad to draw in more followers shown on YouTube .

    BTW, should you not know, every military person takes and oath, still I hope, to protect the US from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

    He deserves no respect. By the time you realize that, if you do, it probably will be too late for all of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enb54 View Post
    I love helicopters, and if there are herds of them, I'll be there...
    You must love this; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yINV-...tailpage#t=18s
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    I have total respect for the Office of the Presidency of the United States. And, having servec my time in the protection and support of this country in uniform I have respected each and every President since Truman even if I didn't agree.

    Not agreeing is part of the American experience. We are allowed to do that here.

    But this person and his followers are beyond description. All other Presidents at least supported the Constitution in some basic form and set out to protect this nation.

    This person isn't, won't and doesn't care. His mission is to disassemble the United States into his personal belief of a system ranging from a dictatorship to full class control by his central government into socialism and a few more forms of destructive social systems all detrimental to free entriprise and the protected freedoms that we have had for over 200 years.

    Now, ironically, if you think my post is racist then follow along to my other recent posting regarding his majesties recent ad to draw in more followers shown on YouTube .

    BTW, should you not know, every military person takes and oath, still I hope, to protect the US from all enemies both foreign and domestic.

    He deserves no respect. By the time you realize that, if you do, it probably will be too late for all of us.
    Well stated. Obama deserves no respect from Americans.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
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    Quote Originally Posted by coilcleaner View Post
    have some respect for the commander in chief.
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    but how racist can you be?
    How sad........





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    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Far too violent for an old Air Force peacenik like me, if you want to use flying machines for war, then nuclear is the only way to go, the results are 100% effective and 100% predictable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post

    But this person and his followers are beyond description. All other Presidents at least supported the Constitution in some basic form and set out to protect this nation.
    Except Cheney and his lapdog Bush

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolarMike View Post
    Except Cheney and his lapdog Bush
    I did not necessary like President Bush or VP Cheney except for entertainment value when the President was handed a microphone.

    I actually think and have seen that President Bush is a very good person at heart. We should all have to live through times where we make critical life and death decisions for others before we jump to an easy set of words of condemnation.

    But in no way did they usurp the Powers of the Constitution of the USA.

    My experience of people who say such easy statments is that they are not dealing in the reality of that present day situation.

    We, the USA, were attacked on our soil. I'm not too sure the younger bunch understands the significance of that action.

    Our President, who ever he or she was at the time, had a duty to protect this country and especially within it's borders.

    If our military believed that you might have something to do with this attack, or me or anyone on here, then they had the right and duty to persue actions to the extend of coming on your/mine property and inspecting everything from business to personal.

    These are not normal times and they will never be again. GW pushed the limits of privacy and bent some laws but that is what he is suppose to do. You need to have some experience relatives sit you down and explain to you what it's like living through a war...ask anyone who lived through WWII. Sacrafice and personal/public hardship was what it was all about.

    Did some things get overdone...you bet. But it kept this nation safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enb54 View Post
    Far too violent for an old Air Force peacenik like me, if you want to use flying machines for war, then nuclear is the only way to go, the results are 100% effective and 100% predictable...
    It doesn't sound like you have anything against the violence, you just don't want to have to witness it up front and personal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaT View Post
    I did not necessary like President Bush or VP Cheney except for entertainment value when the President was handed a microphone.

    I actually think and have seen that President Bush is a very good person at heart. We should all have to live through times where we make critical life and death decisions for others before we jump to an easy set of words of condemnation.

    But in no way did they usurp the Powers of the Constitution of the USA.

    My experience of people who say such easy statments is that they are not dealing in the reality of that present day situation.

    We, the USA, were attacked on our soil. I'm not too sure the younger bunch understands the significance of that action.

    Our President, who ever he or she was at the time, had a duty to protect this country and especially within it's borders.

    If our military believed that you might have something to do with this attack, or me or anyone on here, then they had the right and duty to persue actions to the extend of coming on your/mine property and inspecting everything from business to personal.

    These are not normal times and they will never be again. GW pushed the limits of privacy and bent some laws but that is what he is suppose to do. You need to have some experience relatives sit you down and explain to you what it's like living through a war...ask anyone who lived through WWII. Sacrafice and personal/public hardship was what it was all about.

    Did some things get overdone...you bet. But it kept this nation safe.
    No one denies that the c**p that happened at 911 was a major kick in the knobies but I still think Cheney went too far and used the attack to justify a lot of stuff that was not warranted, Iraq comes to mind. A lot of people were hoodwinked but all the laws that were necessary to protect the country already existed. They just needed to be more vigilant.

    And i have listened ad nauseum for years to my grandparents when they talked about the depression and fighting in Europe during WWII (the big one, as Archie would say), and from my friends father in the Dutch resistance who had to eat tulip bulbs and sawdust to stay alive.

    The Brits have had the h**l bombed out of them during the war and have had the IRA terrorizing them for years but they didn't say the things Bush/Rummy/Cheney said which struck a lot of panic in Americans. I believe they had an ulterior motive. He believed in Leo Strauss's "Big Lie" which said that the ordinary person needed to be told what they wanted to hear and that it was fine to lie to them to advance the speakers goals.

    Anyway, I think they did bend the constitution pretty far purposely ignored laws to further their goals. Now that that door is open, there is no closing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolarMike View Post
    And i have listened ad nauseum for years to my grandparents when they talked about the depression and fighting in Europe during WWII (the big one, as Archie would say), and from my friends father in the Dutch resistance who had to eat tulip bulbs and sawdust to stay alive.

    Anyway, I think they did bend the constitution pretty far purposely ignored laws to further their goals. Now that that door is open, there is no closing it.
    You should tell your grandparents to shut the H**l up! Who needs those old folks anyway. They must be a drag on your life.

    That bending of the Constitution has happened many times before in the history of the US. Our President has a right to tighten liberties up such as free passage, communication interference of all sorts including wire taps and the like and giving the military and police type folks more powers to assemble evidence towards future harm to the US by individuals and organizations.

    Ironically, obama raised a ruckus about President Bush bending the rules for obtaining information then took the product of President Bush's information gathering which found Ben Ladin (whatever) and stood on many platforms taken bows for taking him out.

    After WWII many still took advantage of the power or our federal government which started such things as the McCarthy error, which was a shame. And it took many years before he and his kind was brought back into shape.

    But these are all war stories of the past and I'm sure you will believe that they absolutely have nothing to do with today so I must be boring to you...also.
    "The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the public's own money.
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