Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 13 of 25
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Rochester, NY, USA
    Posts
    14,288

    Oklahoma effectively bans abortions

    This is down right frightening

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/02...all-abortions/


    Oklahoma Senate Passes Personhood Act, Effectively Banning All Abortions
    February 16, 2012
    By Stephen D. Foster Jr.

    The Republican dominated Oklahoma Senate has overwhelmingly passed Senate Bill 1433, also known as the Personhood Act, by a vote of 34-8.

    The bill would define life as beginning at conception, effectively banning all abortions and many forms of contraception. The bill would also ban women from getting an abortion if they are raped because there are no exceptions in it. In other words, Oklahoma Republicans are granting rapists more power over their victims. Not only will a woman have to deal with the pain and trauma of being raped, she’ll be forced by state government to remain pregnant for nine agonizing months, only to endure more pain while giving birth.

    Basically, the rapist wins

    The bill would also prohibit women from obtaining life saving abortions from their doctors if the pregnancy threatens their lives. The language of the bill is so broad and encompassing that a woman may be forced to die in a hospital because her doctors would be powerless to save her. But that’s not all, under this language, it’s possible that even a natural miscarriage could be defined as involuntary manslaughter.
    the control freaks have effectively taken away any rights that a women has.
    The Last four letters


    American = I Can, Republican = I Can, Democrats = Rats


    any questions

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Dacula, GA
    Posts
    12,585
    Funny thing there jmac Oklahoma hasn't done a thing. The Senate supposedly pass a bill according the article you posted.

    The House would have to pass it also and then the governor would have to sign it into law before Oklahoma could "effectively ban abortions" . Give you 10 to 1 that will never happen.

    Relax and if they do I believe a state has the right to pass it if they want to because according to the Constitution that is a state concern not the almighty Federal government.

    It would be nice if the states could run themselves again like they used to. That is the way our country is supposed to work anyhow. Thank you, thank you very much
    "I could have ended the war in a month. I could have made North Vietnam look like a mud puddle."
    "I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones that do violence to the Constitution."
    Barry Goldwater

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    2,459
    Glen- I poked around and some other articles suggest that it's basically a done deal.

    From this CBS article:

    "The bill now heads to the House, where it is expected to pass. Republican Gov. Mary Fallin typically won't comment on pending legislation, but she has described herself as strongly 'pro-life.'"

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    68,943
    Since this information is coming from a source that fully supports the Occupier's, I'm going to hold my judgement until I can find out just how much truth is in that report.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    2,459
    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Since this information is coming from a source that fully supports the Occupier's, I'm going to hold my judgement until I can find out just how much truth is in that report.

    Welcome back Robo!

    I need to ask for a point of clarification. CBS supports occupiers?

    Thanks in advance for clearing this up.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Cloverdale,Ca
    Posts
    316

    pro choice

    A woman has the right to choose abstinence. Let us realize that no one has died from lack of sex. I believe life begins at conception, and termination of that life is murder. If you do not like the consequences of your actions, make better decisions. Maybe these are unpopular beliefs but that alone does not make them wrong. All men are created equal, unless your slut of a mother is to busy giving away her virtue to be responsible for the sacred life she has invoked....
    Living the dream !!

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Kaufman county, Texas
    Posts
    10,026
    Quote Originally Posted by jmac00 View Post
    This is down right frightening

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/02...all-abortions/


    Oklahoma Senate Passes Personhood Act, Effectively Banning All Abortions
    February 16, 2012
    By Stephen D. Foster Jr.



    the control freaks have effectively taken away any rights that a women has.
    I thought abortion was illegal in some states before roe/wade. Is abortion illegal now in any state? I did not think so. My understanding was that the supreme court ruled abortion a constitutional right. The issue was a little before my time, maybe some of you older farts can educate me on the matter?
    "You boys are really making this thing harder than it has to be". Me

    "Who ARE you people? And WHAT are you doing in my SWAMP!?" Shrek

    Service calls submitted after 3PM will be posted the next business day.

    I give free estimates [Wild Ass Guesses] over the phone.

    "I am sorry for interrupting, please continue with your quarreling" Some chick on TV

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    68,943
    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    I thought abortion was illegal in some states before roe/wade. Is abortion illegal now in any state? I did not think so. My understanding was that the supreme court ruled abortion a constitutional right. The issue was a little before my time, maybe some of you older farts can educate me on the matter?
    Prior to 1970, abortion was illegal in all states.

    As for the Personhood Act;
    The Oklahoma Senate has passed a controversial bill that declares that life begins at the moment of conception, in a landslide 34-8 vote. The Personhood Act passed yesterday after two hours of debate. It's unclear what effect the bill will have, however; its author says it's just a statement and doesn't ban or even restrict abortion rights, birth control access, or stem cell research. He adds that anyone saying so is merely "fear mongering," the Oklahoman reports.
    http://www.newser.com/story/139862/o...nhood-act.html

    Fear mongering is what Socialist Democrats and other leftists do best. Take note that this act was passed by bipartisan vote. That's right....errr....correct, there are rational Democrats too.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


  9. #9
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Kaufman county, Texas
    Posts
    10,026
    Quote Originally Posted by RoBoTeq View Post
    Prior to 1970, abortion was illegal in all states.

    As for the Personhood Act; http://www.newser.com/story/139862/o...nhood-act.html

    Fear mongering is what Socialist Democrats and other leftists do best. Take note that this act was passed by bipartisan vote. That's right....errr....correct, there are rational Democrats too.
    Thanks for the link Robo, the other previous ones were confusing me. This is basically a non-issue.
    "You boys are really making this thing harder than it has to be". Me

    "Who ARE you people? And WHAT are you doing in my SWAMP!?" Shrek

    Service calls submitted after 3PM will be posted the next business day.

    I give free estimates [Wild Ass Guesses] over the phone.

    "I am sorry for interrupting, please continue with your quarreling" Some chick on TV

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    68,943
    Quote Originally Posted by Tool-Slinger View Post
    Thanks for the link Robo, the other previous ones were confusing me. This is basically a non-issue.
    Of course it is. Only someone who somehow thought I had gone away for some reason would not realize this is a non-issue.
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


  11. #11
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Urbandale IA. USA
    Posts
    4,925
    Quote Originally Posted by jmac00 View Post
    This is down right frightening

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/02...all-abortions/


    Oklahoma Senate Passes Personhood Act, Effectively Banning All Abortions
    February 16, 2012
    By Stephen D. Foster Jr.

    the control freaks have effectively taken away any rights that a women has.
    What about the rights of LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness for the UNBORN???
    .
    Those who dance, appear insane to those who do not hear the music.
    Those who believe, appear ignorant to those who do not know God.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Woburn, MA
    Posts
    6,656
    Quote Originally Posted by cehs View Post
    What about the rights of LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness for the UNBORN???
    .
    There can't be an absolute, though.

    As a non-religious person, I agree with the essence of your stance. To me, it is this simple; if you take something that will turn in to a human being, and make it so it will not turn in to a human being, what have you just done?

    Right. Exactly.

    To me, any other stance is a fairly weak and easy-to-see-though attempt at guilt relief.

    Nonetheless, extremes are almost always bad.

    We are not men if we simply lay down the law and follow what it says to the letter. Laws are never as simple as words on paper else we would not need trials, judges and juries who decide not only innocence or guilt but also the level of punishment should there be a guilty verdict.

    What if you come home and find a man with a smoking gun standing over your wife's lifeless body? Law says don't take matters in to your own hands and if your own life is not threatened don't retaliate. But if you do retaliate and just outright shoot the guy (even excessively) you are going to get some sympathy in the court room. Just the way it is, and, in fact, the way it should be.

    That's why we must always have and use the human element to use laws as a guide, not the end of the story.

    Same thing with abortion. Let's be clear; I will NEVER like it, but there are times that I will accept it.
    "Social networking" is an oxymoron.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Eastern PA
    Posts
    68,943
    Quote Originally Posted by cehs View Post
    What about the rights of LIFE, liberty and pursuit of happiness for the UNBORN???
    .
    Where in our Constitution is there anything about unborn fetus's? We all have our opinions on when a life form is actually considered a viable human being. Some go to the extreme of saying it is at conception while I believe it is when they are 18 years old and regestered as Republicans. Legally, it is when they are removed from the womb and are living without the life support system of the mother. How do those of us of spiritual faith know when the spiritual nature enters the body? Isn't that really when we become human beings and not just some other life form? What if spirituallity enters us on our first breath outside of the womb? Would that not change the way we think?
    Government is a disease...
    ...masquerading as its own cure…
    Ecclesiastes 10:2 NIV


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Comfortech Show Promo Image

Related Forums

Plumbing Talks | Contractor Magazine
Forums | Electrical Construction & Maintenance (EC&M) Magazine
Comfortech365 Virtual Event