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Thread: Proving yourself.
02-11-2012, 10:25 PM #14Member of the "Work Exchange Program"
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02-11-2012, 10:41 PM #15
02-12-2012, 01:38 AM #16
There seems to be a misconception amongst employees, that employers are all some greedy bastards who have nothing better to do, than to connive ways to screw their employees.
While there may be exceptions, most employers long for the day that they have a good, solid crew of guys who work well together, treat the customers properly, and understand that the company must remain profitable for them to keep their jobs.
An employer who recognizes an employee that is a "keeper" will usually do what it takes to keep them. Yes, we're busy....and you may need to remind us about that 30/60/90 day review after hire.
But don't assume that we're all trying to screw you out of something.
I've cleaned out enough trucks of employees who just left, either voluntarily or involuntarily, to have a good handle on just who is out to screw who.
"Prove Yourself".....day in and day out.....and you'll be secure in your job. If you're a worthy employee, your employer won't want to risk your leaving. Simple as that.Technical incompetence is NOT a sales tool....
02-12-2012, 02:10 AM #17
The simple old rule is "Show me" and that is all. If you are an idiot and show our customers that you are an idiot, then you'd better change your profession. I am professional, and expect you to be too. End of story...
Sorry, ranting again... (but it was a really quick rant, wasn't it?)
02-12-2012, 08:08 AM #18
Ok. Here is the problem John, at least for me.
You keep an eye on a guy's performace, right? In your "busy" day you still have a handle on what is happening right?
I, as the employee, shouldn't have to come to you, the boss, and remind you how to do your job. I see it as giving your boss lip, and I have always avoided giving the boss lip.
I think a boss is more concerned in seeing what he can get away with, with his guys. How much he can "push buttons" and get away with it. I think "busy" is nothing but an excuse. Sure, I know the boss is a busy guy. So? A boss is never too busy to collect the check or too busy to chew butt....
02-12-2012, 08:50 AM #19
02-12-2012, 10:08 AM #20Professional Member*
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02-12-2012, 10:37 AM #21Regular Guest
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The beauty about the union is that we get the money upfront per contract and if we dont prove ourselves later then we loose our jobs, there is no games or false promises.
02-12-2012, 12:06 PM #22
Look, in today's modern world of electronic wonders, you have NO EXCUSE to "forget" raises and employee reviews. Hey, even a CALENDAR works still, right? It boils down to simply this: IF you are late with reviews and raises, you ARE screwing the employee.
As far as forgetting stuff myself, no, I don't. When the bass man tells me he wants this or that done, I write it down on a sticky note. That note hangs in the upper left corner of my truck window. The excuse "I forgot" is lame and bosses typically don't really accept it as an excuse. They want RESULTS, not excuses. I can live with that. Wish THEY too lived by those rules.
I don't know what your post's purpose serves, other than your weak attempt to belittle me. Do you have little man sydrome or something?
02-12-2012, 12:06 PM #23
after 20 years its... give me my rate with a van i can be seen in and thats it.if they push that "prove yourself" crap its only one way to see if your a Fup like the exsisting % of the people they have working for them.experience scares people,with others are in wonder how much you know and how you handle cutomers and jobs.. it all a game...then you figure if you want to lower your standards to work for this bird.i have had jobs knowing at the sitdown these guys are A holes and their contracts reflected it..they might no tell you the personality of the company but the techs in the field will show you it tight and right or sloppy and knee jerking all and any repairs with babble of crap on invoices...and would bury their mother to keep an image up..."when in doubt...jump it out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMy-sAHwS4E
02-12-2012, 12:10 PM #24
You mean, like 10-year guys, who can't be taught anything about proper use of tools or proper technical understanding, because they've "been doing it this way for years, and been getting by just fine" ??
You're right...some guys' "experience" scares me.Technical incompetence is NOT a sales tool....
02-12-2012, 12:22 PM #25
your is good as what you work on .what the biggest piece of tonnage you stand in front of to repair that's under contract ..can't wait on this answer?you comment on my post is totally my point the guy is assassinated right in the door as another parts changer.you want to test me with break down question on an interview...knock yourself out...as long as i can ask you question?what's the difference between a contactor and a starter ....for an example... you have 5 seconds to answer it........... get back on that single tonnage item if you can"when in doubt...jump it out" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMy-sAHwS4E
02-12-2012, 12:24 PM #26
Some employers are as bad or worse than your perception of some techs.
Can you see the IRONY in your train of thoughts with "malcontents" that jump jobs? Do you keep those bone headed techs on your payroll for YEARS before giving them the boot? Yet you call a good tech nasty names when they run into employment with crappy bosses?!?!
Yeah, they are 'trash' because they didn't work for bubba bob for 20 years.....