hi i am a business owner started 1999 and i have been with hvac talk from 3/05 and its looks like if some one has join before nov06 they dont have to go thru anything also i had an old email address with hvac talk and i have fix this yesterday but i still cant go into the business side. i know i dont come to this site alot but i do when i get real slow to see what others are doing about the same thing. i also tell alot people about this site whos really wants to be in this feild. dont really know where to put this so if this is wrong please moved this to the right place. thanks dave