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    anyone still around?? I need some advice on maint...

    anyone still around?? I need some advice on maint on my Liebert Challenger 3000.....my quote is for $XXXX annually....does that make sense? It seems a bit high

    EDIT: Please, no pricing. Nobody...
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    now there's some good comic prose!!!

    now there's some good comic prose!!!
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    I'm glad it's all over.....things are great...

    I'm glad it's all over.....things are great now....the system is worth the money....with all the crap I went through, I could have gotten spot coolers for backup instead of that silly Trane...
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    heating??? If I have a problem heating the room I...

    heating??? If I have a problem heating the room I will have a major problem....I'm in Florida, I don't think I will encounter a cold front strong enough of long enough to facilitate a need for...
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    it's just about winding down.....and the reason...

    it's just about winding down.....and the reason why it took so long is b/c of HVAC contractors who would rather sell a product that will not do the job, just to put food on the table....I should hope...
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    John, where are you?

    John, where are you?
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    nah, I think I'll stick around....if you don't...

    nah, I think I'll stick around....if you don't want to read, quit following and checking on the thread

    If there were more honest HVAC people out there I would never have gotten into this mess. I...
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    still running great...the airflow is great, and...

    still running great...the airflow is great, and the thing just runs....I need to get the intelligence module installed so I can really see what's going on and get it configured even better
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    don't know what that is.....but my challanger...

    don't know what that is.....but my challanger unit is in and operational.....so far so good
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    the old compressor is off the roof....the old...

    the old compressor is off the roof....the old handler is gone.....the Liebert should be turning on any minute now....where are you guys???
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    we are actually planning to have the cut over...

    we are actually planning to have the cut over today....my liebert may finally be installed and commissioned today!!!!

    I don't know if I even believe the words I just typed, but it should be up and...
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    here is a link to see some pictures ...

    here is a link to see some pictures

    http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=8AatmTdk5auXKw
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    I'm putting in a Challanger 3000....there is a...

    I'm putting in a Challanger 3000....there is a Fan unit that is going on my roof as well
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    how do I post pictures on this thread?? A...

    how do I post pictures on this thread??

    A liebert type system was proposed, but tI got shot down for price
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    The liebert arrived today....as soon as I get the...

    The liebert arrived today....as soon as I get the electric squared away with my building it will be in....now this thing looks like it'll do the job!!!
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    I have two stand alone systems monitoring the...

    I have two stand alone systems monitoring the temp of the server room. They both page me when there is a problem. This thread has testimony that the system worked. I was notified, and I got one of my...
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    now way....not starting with the operation heat...

    now way....not starting with the operation heat load again....that's a real dead end.....what I am doing is putting in a challanger that can pump out from 3-5 tons so I can adjust it is I find I...
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    is that optimism from Diceman....wow, I guess it...

    is that optimism from Diceman....wow, I guess it really might be an end of an era

    I'm going to be optimistic and say that I think this Challanger unit will actually end up getting installed....as...
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    I will be sure to ask, and def inform you guys. ...

    I will be sure to ask, and def inform you guys.

    I believe the unit will be installed within 3 weeks
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    well, as the saying goes, you get what you pay...

    well, as the saying goes, you get what you pay for....I'm going to get the right equipment by paying the right amount of money. I don't know for sure, but I would guess that Liebert systems that are...
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    no more mini mate, we will never pass...

    no more mini mate, we will never pass inspection.....I'm getting a quote for the 5 ton challenger unit that can be adjusted to run at 3 tons and increased if I need more. If it's not soooo much more,...
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    truth be told.....I never liked them...

    truth be told.....I never liked them anyway.....the price was right.....I'm going for the Liebert Mini Mate
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    Dennis wasn't much of a menace, but we did have...

    Dennis wasn't much of a menace, but we did have power outages and trees blown around. Weak tree limbs were natuarally pruned away as well.

    I'm spent with this project, truth be told, 3 tons is a...
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    I have been told it has all that I need.....I'll...

    I have been told it has all that I need.....I'll get the details and forward it to you
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    well....of course it's not square one....but here...

    well....of course it's not square one....but here is where I am at now....the exisiting guys are trying to get another system for me.....meanwhile, my Liebert guy just called me and told me he had...
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    back to square one.....APC is having "vendor...

    back to square one.....APC is having "vendor issues" that have prevented the unit from being built....my Liebert guy says he can get me a unit install within 3 weeks....I don't know if I can trust...
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    of course the July 1 date for delivery of my new...

    of course the July 1 date for delivery of my new AC unit was wrong, they are telling me that it won't be until the 17th.......hope they don't mind when I can't get them a clear answer as to where...
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    the truth is that we are all using tazers...

    the truth is that we are all using tazers now....they have some that look like guns so maybe the guy will just turn and run.....pulling the emergency inergen release (I don't have FM200) would work,...
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    that would be a great topic!!!!

    that would be a great topic!!!!
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    I still think the 9mm thread is much, much...

    I still think the 9mm thread is much, much bigger....but I could start one like that too....what types of arms do you think I need to protect my data center....is a 9mm enough?

    I'd rather have a...
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    yes I would, but I can't invite everyone...

    yes I would, but I can't invite everyone over......my plan is to give the guy under me one socket....as long as they don't overload the circuit!!!

    what the heck....if they don't give me problems,...
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    working on that now....I was told that the feed...

    working on that now....I was told that the feed for the floor I was on was on the generator

    like I probably said 84 pages ago, or maybe not....I wanted to hire a contractor to handle the whole...
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    what do you think about me installing a 30,000...

    what do you think about me installing a 30,000 Watt generator on my roof with a 3 day supply of diesel fuel...auto cut on/off switch, so it'll power my server room and both AC units in case of power...
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    the good news is that the tech who came out last...

    the good news is that the tech who came out last night seemed very, very knowledgable about sever room AC units....he was telling me about the unit I bought and how it operates....phase monitor, and...
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    no, unfortunatly the backup gen for the building...

    no, unfortunatly the backup gen for the building isn't tied into my AC or server room....we need to get that done

    I'd like to just put a big propane or diesel generator on the roof and have that...
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    I already ionformed the manager of the switch...

    I already ionformed the manager of the switch being set to 0 minutes, we installed it for this reason, obviously so it would be set at something higher than 0....he acknowledged that it was not...
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    The fun continues

    So, last night, I get out of the shower, take out some cold beer and get ready to watch the basketball game, and my Blackberry goes off. It's my server room telling me the my room has reached 78...
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    can you guys believe I am still waiting for this...

    can you guys believe I am still waiting for this unit to be installed??? This is getting rediculous.....I really should get someone here to check my subcool and superheat readings now that the temp...
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    Trane might be good all year, added a freeze stat...

    Trane might be good all year, added a freeze stat and some other TXC thing....the other guys can rememeber what it was

    I am putting in an APC system for summer use, or all year, haven't decided...
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    got the permit app and NOC....awaiting building...

    got the permit app and NOC....awaiting building manager's signature....this could take a while
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    power issue solved...and I only got shocked...

    power issue solved...and I only got shocked once!!! :-)

    The HVAC company stopped calling me so I think the permits and plans are either finalized or still being approved, I just hope we are set...
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    Now that looks like the HVAC Chess World...

    Now that looks like the HVAC Chess World Championships!!!
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    I did the best I could with the wattage of the...

    I did the best I could with the wattage of the servers, the big variable is the heat load from the buidling during the nights and weekends


    here's the 10 dat forecast for Hollywood, FL humidity...
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    I'm going with the nominal 4 ton unit...I really...

    I'm going with the nominal 4 ton unit...I really hope it's enough, but I, in my very, very, very, limited knowledge feel that it will be fine

    but that's just me....I plan on consolidating my...
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    if it works fine....I'm happy....I need to cover...

    if it works fine....I'm happy....I need to cover all bases and not worry about the room's cooling. With both systems in place I think I can get that done. I don't want to be in the July heat deciding...
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    looks like we are finally running out of steam on...

    looks like we are finally running out of steam on this thread, and that's good for all of us.

    The only update I have is that we are begining the permit process
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    I hope to avoid the storm....the new system...

    I hope to avoid the storm....the new system should be in by May, I will pay top dollar to the installer to check the system on a regular basis to make sure no storms come in May

    I was going to...
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    with my luck, Jacko will be aquitted on the day...

    with my luck, Jacko will be aquitted on the day the new AC is turned on, and the news story will be shelved again
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    looks like the APC unit will be installed in the...

    looks like the APC unit will be installed in the begining of May....I'm going with the ceiling mounted one
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    I wish I lived in a perfect world!!!! Bottom...

    I wish I lived in a perfect world!!!!

    Bottom line is that money is money, and we make decisions based on them. I have a Trane now that seems to be sufficient for October-March at least.....so even...
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